Formula One

cyberyacht replied on 28/03/2021 08:34

Posted on 28/03/2021 08:34

I know one swallow does not a summer make but, from yesterday's qualifying, it appears that it could all be a whole lot closer this year. Sad to see that Williams are still languishing as Tail End Charlie.

Bluemalaga replied on 15/12/2021 13:42

Posted on 14/12/2021 22:48 by Whittakerr

No totally different. F1 bosses are there to look after the interests i.e. profits of the F1 organisation. Team principles are there to make a cohesive team that wins races.

Its quite understandable that F1 bosses don't want the race to end behind a safety car, although they were quite happy to run the whole race behind a safety car in Belgium so they didn't have to reimburse the fans ticket prices.

Posted on 15/12/2021 13:42

Apologies Whittakerr For F1bosses, the term was not the team Principles, it was F1 organisation.

So lets follow that theme with what we have heard over the radio and TV cometary, Such as LET THEM RACE etc.

F1 bosses  -  Stefano Domenicali. (President & Chief Executive Officer)
Ross Brawn. (Managing Director of Motor Sports)
Chase Carey. (Non-executive Chairman)

Discussed not finishing races behind the safety car with knowledge of team principles as described in the article, so principles were aware of the situation.

Michael Massi was clearly aware of the situation and carried out the bosses wishes in restarting the race as soon as possible and in the only way possible.

During the race when Lewis and Max were scrapping on track, Toto and Christian were heard trying to influence the stewards decisions to not penalise their drivers, as has been the case over many races.

Toto and Christian therefore were well aware that the race was most likely restarted and therefore the red bull decision to change tyres left Max behind Lewis with fresher tyres. If Mercedes had taken the same decision, then Lewis would have been behind Max on the same tyres or still in front of Max if they had done the swap on the same lap, with fresher tyres.

Mercedes had the same chances to put Lewis on fresher tyres as was clear from the question raised by Lewis over the radio.

Seems to be more the bad decision by Mercedes rather than the fault of Michael Massi.

Now they have refused to attend the photoshoot for the manufactures title.

Bluemalaga replied on 15/12/2021 15:24

Posted on 15/12/2021 11:23 by Tammygirl

Football has its VAR, Penalty shoot Outs where both teams have 5 penalties,Cricket has its ultra edge,and in extreme circumstances a 1 over bowl off Tennis has its Hawkeye and the Tiebreaker and Formula 1 did this

Yes, I've thought about how other sports deal with what was in a way a tie between MV and LH. How about a 5 lap race just the 2 of them same tyres starting at the same point on the grid, first to finish wins wouldn't that show who is the better driver and car. No team tactics, no radio, just 2 drivers battling it out. Might need a few more laps so tyres can warm up but you get the point. One person should not have been allowed to decide how a whole season of racing ends. 

Posted on 15/12/2021 15:24

Not sure about this Tammygirl. This was not a tie situation as Max was leading the championship going into the last race of a brilliant season where the two main participants, Max and Lewis, battled it out race after race. We had a couple of sprint race weekends  and the outcome was clear that the Mercedes was by far the quicker car, which makes the achievement of Max to remain in contention all year something rather special.

Now lets reverse the drivers and ask whether Lewis in a Red Bull would have been able to keep up with Max driving a Merc. 

Would we expect the top two teams in the premiership if they were level on points have a play off. Only the one finishing second under present rules would be happy, unless they also lost the playoff. Bank balances would be better though.

Whittakerr replied on 15/12/2021 15:50

Posted on 15/12/2021 15:50

Some nice scenes of Sir Lewis Hamilton getting his Knighthood from Prince Charles on todays news bulletins. 

Whittakerr replied on 16/12/2021 10:35

Posted on 16/12/2021 10:35

Mercedes have announced they will not be appealing Sundays controversial result following an FIA announcement that they will be holding a "detailed analysis" of what went wrong and the admission that the debacle is tarnishing F1s image.

DavidKlyne replied on 16/12/2021 14:24

Posted on 16/12/2021 14:24

Sky News have just put this on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXzUIijcvuw about the withdrawal of the Mercedes protest. Interesting that they also question whether LH will continue next season. I would have thought the LH would want to see how the new regulation cars stack up before making a decision, unless of course, he knows something about the new cars that we don't!!!

David

Whittakerr replied on 16/12/2021 14:47

Posted on 16/12/2021 14:47

Emotions will still be running high so I'd take any such inference with a pinch of salt, however who could blame him if he doesn't continue with the way the sport has treated him and Mercedes. 

peedee replied on 16/12/2021 14:58

Posted on 16/12/2021 14:58

Lets not forget the Mercedes still won the constructers titile for the eitghth time. This is the one that really matters to the the teams in terms of finacial reward not the drivers championship. I am sure the Red Bull team would have much preferred to win that one!

peedee

cyberyacht replied on 17/12/2021 09:13

Posted on 17/12/2021 09:13

From what I've read, the new regulations are predominately aerodynamic in an endeavour to ensure closer racing. That being the case, it is to be welcomed. Which team can conjure up the magic remains to be seen. Red Bull's dominance in the immediate pre-hybrid era was mainly down to aerodynamics so will Adrian Newey cast a better spell than Mercedes probable superior wind tunnel facilities?

LH's continuation may depend on what the FIA do with regard to "the rules" rather than any car developments.

DavidKlyne replied on 17/12/2021 09:23

Posted on 17/12/2021 09:23

There will also be changes at the top of the FIA next year as Jean Todt is standing down. So I assume who ever takes over will be the person to review the rules which apply to how races are conducted?

David

Kasspa replied on 17/12/2021 09:35

Posted on 17/12/2021 09:35

LH will be there..... he will want his legacy as 8 times world champion despite records being there to be broken.....

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