Leaving dogs unattended in van

richardandros replied on 14/07/2021 16:04

Posted on 14/07/2021 16:04

I was always under the impression that it was not allowed to leave dogs unaccompanied in your caravan whilst staying on Club sites.

We are currently on the NYM site, near Whitby and there is a poor dog barking and whining in the van next to us.  The owners went out this morning and given the experience of the last few days, are unlikely to be back until 1800 or so. It is clearly in distress - although how much is anyone's guess.

We have approached the wardens who are aware of the barking (the pitch is not far from the office) and told Ros, that the dog has been barking since the owners went out.  They had been told that it was being left on its own but had water and a bed and, in fairness, they have left all the roof lights open. It is nevertheless upsetting to have to listen to it. Mrs Warden also said that she was not aware of any rule preventing dogs being left on their own.

Having had a look at the CAMC leaflet - "Touring with Dogs" - it appears that she is correct:-

"Dogs can become anxious when lonely or uncomfortable. To minimise this, make sure
they have somewhere cool to relax, with good ventilation and access to an ample supply of drinking water if you do have to leave them for short times.
Where possible, please keep your dog with you, especially on hot days. A quick build-up of temperatures in cars, awnings, outfits or tents can be fatal to animals."

This isn't a complaint about barking dogs - my complaint, if I have one - is about inconsiderate owners who, in my opinion, are not fit to look after an animal.

Have the rules changed - and if so - why, because it doesn't seem fair to the dog!

 

JVB66 replied on 16/07/2021 10:53

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 Conflating  care of children and dogs is highly offensive . Dogs are animals and children are people and some here dont seem to know the difference . 

Posted on 16/07/2021 10:53

As our local vicar says, with humans and animals ,the majority of older owners have a dog with them 24/7and the attachment is as strong as with members of their family. a loss is just as traumatic and depending on how their family bond is/was the loss of a pet could well be more traumaticsurprised

Takethedogalong replied on 16/07/2021 11:42

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 Conflating  care of children and dogs is highly offensive . Dogs are animals and children are people and some here dont seem to know the difference . 

Posted on 16/07/2021 11:42

I know the difference AD. But I also recognise the similarities in caring for someone, or something, that isn’t intelligent enough, or developed enough to be able to look after itself, safely and healthily. Care of both requires compassion, intelligence, patience, understanding, being around to ensure that they aren’t injuring themselves or anyone else, or getting into a situation that could be a risk.

There are numerous studies that have concluded that those who have a pet as a child, and learn how to look after that pet successfully, go on to demonstrate better parenting skills in later life, as empathy, patience, a loving bond, understanding a basic life support needs, (food, water, safe conditions, exercise, cleanliness) are easily transferable skills to the far more complex raising of a healthy, happy, balanced child.

Child neglect, animal neglect. Both legislated. Nice, caring, intelligent people don’t do either. That’s all I meant.

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Cornersteady replied on 17/07/2021 14:03

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I don't think comparing, or whatever, care of children and dogs is offensive at all. Both require lots of care, love, commitment  and responsibility. I've not had a dog but I do think, or it appears to me, that bringing up a dog is far harder than a child. 

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moulesy replied on 17/07/2021 16:00

Posted on 17/07/2021 16:00

" .... take it from me all a dog wants is feeding and you will get unqualified devotion"

Totally, 100% wrong and to make a statement like that based on your years ago boyhood experience with one dog explains a lot about the almost inevitable way you jump in on these sorts of threads assuming you know as much as or more than those of us who have lived with dogs for years and years. Every one is different and to pretend otherwise is utterly crass I'm afraid. 

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