Booking Fees for the Honeypots

fatbelly replied on 24/01/2017 08:51

Posted on 24/01/2017 08:51

Hi, On Jan 2nd we tried to book 2 nights in December at one of the so called "honeypot sites" (Rowntree Park). But its fully booked for the whole year and I couldn't even find 1 night in December.  I like the CC policy of no fee when you book and think it should stay, but with a few site exceptions.

I've no doubt that as the year goes by a small number of people who have booked RP will just cancel with no penalty but  member's like myself who wish to book and will not cancel lose out.

What do people think about putting booking fees on the 2 or 3 honeypot sites to ensure that people who book uphold their booking. As I have said I think the overall policy of no booking fees for the vast majority of sites works and should be kept. 

petertr replied on 19/02/2017 17:24

Posted on 18/02/2017 16:12 by avondriver

I never understand how this solution would work.

If I want to book a 5 day stay at a site in X-months time would I have to sign on and book one day at a time for five days in a row?

If I didn't but waited until day 5 I may well find the first 4 are all fully booked.

Sounds just as bad to me.

 

Posted on 19/02/2017 17:24

Talk about throwing a hurdle up for the sake of it.

Ok then, open up a week at a time, or a fortnight at a time - or allow any continuous booking as long as it starts on the day that you open the system. i.e. give it some decent thought, propose it to the membership, then if it is agreed, run a pilot test at a limited number of sites to iron out any unexpected issues.

Seems like you just want to rubbish any other idea because it threatens the system that favours you today.

But nobody would be that selfish, right?

JVB66 replied on 19/02/2017 17:31

Posted on 19/02/2017 16:33 by petertr

Well, I'll very shortly be joining the queue of non members.  The way the caravan club works basically sticks its fingers up at people who work.

I barely used a CC site last year - could never get in where we wanted to go as it was all booked up 6 months in advanced.

It shouldn't be ran as a club for the "in crowd", it should be equally beneficial for all members.

Posted on 19/02/2017 17:31

OKundecided one more pitch wink

SteveL replied on 19/02/2017 17:35

Posted on 19/02/2017 17:24 by petertr

Talk about throwing a hurdle up for the sake of it.

Ok then, open up a week at a time, or a fortnight at a time - or allow any continuous booking as long as it starts on the day that you open the system. i.e. give it some decent thought, propose it to the membership, then if it is agreed, run a pilot test at a limited number of sites to iron out any unexpected issues.

Seems like you just want to rubbish any other idea because it threatens the system that favours you today.

But nobody would be that selfish, right?

Posted on 19/02/2017 17:35

As far as I can see what you propose is something that suits you better, not something that is necessarily fairer for all. You are never going to please all the people all of the time. Even when we worked we managed to sort things out and secured the bookings we wanted. Yes occasionally there would have to be compromises but that is just life. In my opinion the majority who moan that they can't get this that and the other, are simply not prepared to try.

JVB66 replied on 19/02/2017 17:36

Posted on 19/02/2017 16:33 by petertr

Well, I'll very shortly be joining the queue of non members.  The way the caravan club works basically sticks its fingers up at people who work.

I barely used a CC site last year - could never get in where we wanted to go as it was all booked up 6 months in advanced.

It shouldn't be ran as a club for the "in crowd", it should be equally beneficial for all members.

Posted on 19/02/2017 17:36

As the saying goes "you can please the Majority of people all the time but cannot please every one all the time"wink and the majority of people will plan their lives and including leisure timecool

Tinwheeler replied on 19/02/2017 17:47

Posted on 19/02/2017 17:47

Petertr, the CC treats us all the same. We are all equal. Can you not see that it is your personal circumstances which are causing you a problem? 

What you want CC to do is to change the system to suit you at this time. When your circumstances change, as they surely will one day, will you want CC to again change to something that suits you better?

Have you tried booking earlier?

replied on 19/02/2017 18:15

Posted on 19/02/2017 18:15

Outside school hols there are normally pitches available. However at school holiday tomes these are more limited and advance booking becomes necessary - same for everybody.

If you want time during August school holidays at a particular site then now is not too early to book

moulesy replied on 19/02/2017 18:26

Posted on 19/02/2017 16:33 by petertr

Well, I'll very shortly be joining the queue of non members.  The way the caravan club works basically sticks its fingers up at people who work.

I barely used a CC site last year - could never get in where we wanted to go as it was all booked up 6 months in advanced.

It shouldn't be ran as a club for the "in crowd", it should be equally beneficial for all members.

Posted on 19/02/2017 18:26

Peter- we've all been there in the past - even us retired old fogeys worked at one time. But instead of throwing in the towel we worked round the system, and, yes, if that meant not getting our first choice of CC sites we'd look for an alternative.

But there are a lot of willing helpers on here; if you could give us some idea of where and when you want to go (but apparently are unable to at the moment) I bet we could come up with any number of alternative suggestions for you. Seems a bit "cutting off your nose to spite your face" if you're leaving the club simply because you can't get one particular booking.

replied on 19/02/2017 18:29

Posted on 18/02/2017 15:28 by petertr

I had a long chat with their facebook reps.  So clearly my feedback *hasn't* been passed on at all, despite being told it would be.

 

One solution is to simply allow people to book X number of months ahead, and have each day open up at midnight.

 

Then there's no longer a single "booking day", where you're totally screwed if you can't be on the phone/web that day.  And if you miss out for your preferred dates, you can try again the day/week after.

It would also make life MILES easier for CC staff too - I'm sure they wouldn't miss getting rid of "crazy day".

Posted on 19/02/2017 18:29

Maybe it was passed on and they thought it to be a bad idea as indeed I do.

mickysf replied on 19/02/2017 21:44

Posted on 19/02/2017 21:44

No matter how we tinker with the possibilities a site which appears full all the time will remain thus!

Wildwood replied on 20/02/2017 14:16

Posted on 20/02/2017 14:16

Even the drip feed of say a week or two or even a month does not work if you want to book from one period into the next. Basically you would have to book as far as the system would let you go and then hope you could then get the rest of the booking when the next period was released. The shorter you make the period between releases the worse the problem becomes.

As an example if the release period was a month and you wanted the last week in July and the first in August you would book the first week in July and then have to hope you beat the rest to the August dates.

There is simply no answer to this problem that will suit everyone or possibly even the majority.

Maybe if there is a problem with people booking several weekends on the first day, that day could be limited to one booking per site on the first day and then the free for all on the next. 

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