Booking Fees for the Honeypots

fatbelly replied on 24/01/2017 08:51

Posted on 24/01/2017 08:51

Hi, On Jan 2nd we tried to book 2 nights in December at one of the so called "honeypot sites" (Rowntree Park). But its fully booked for the whole year and I couldn't even find 1 night in December.  I like the CC policy of no fee when you book and think it should stay, but with a few site exceptions.

I've no doubt that as the year goes by a small number of people who have booked RP will just cancel with no penalty but  member's like myself who wish to book and will not cancel lose out.

What do people think about putting booking fees on the 2 or 3 honeypot sites to ensure that people who book uphold their booking. As I have said I think the overall policy of no booking fees for the vast majority of sites works and should be kept. 

DavidKlyne replied on 24/01/2017 12:36

Posted on 24/01/2017 12:36

This subject is often raised under the circumstances highlighted by the OP. How do we know that if there was a deposit that there would be more availability on those "honeypot" sites? In truth we don't. We don't of course know the occupancy rates at any particular site but in central York I would reckon it would be pretty high all year so those bookings which are cancelled are more often than not taken by someone else. There is also the issue of setting up a separate system for a handfull of sites and would that we worth it. Personally I think you have to have a single system be that no deposit or with a deposit. Despite many pages of discussion on this topic I have never got the impression that there is overwhelming support to change the current system.

David

Tinwheeler replied on 24/01/2017 12:38

Posted on 24/01/2017 11:57 by Tracy123

Hi Everyone,

Just to make you aware, there are currently a number of dates in November and December available to book at Rowntree Park site.

Tracy

Posted on 24/01/2017 12:38

Thanks, Tracy.

There you go, FB. Pitches are available so you can book.

I'm sure you know this topic has been debated ad nauseam so it's all been said before.

Riggers replied on 24/01/2017 13:27

Posted on 24/01/2017 13:27

When this subject is discussed it  would always appear that the vast majority of members are happy with the current no deposit booking system.

I don't think that deposits would have any effect on the honey pot sites as people would be happy to pay the deposit and if they cancel accept they have to forego it. A lost deposit would not be an issue to some members whilst to others who may have to cancel for genuine reasons not merely just because of a change of plan/mind could feel the financial loss.

Personally I'm for leaving well alone.

 

 

Surfer replied on 24/01/2017 13:40

Posted on 24/01/2017 09:44 by Cornersteady

I assume you mean cancel after the cut off point? (72 hours).

The problem with deposits (according to the club) is that when they had them the number of late cancellations (after the cut off) and the number of no shows was actually higher than it is without them. people thought they had a paid a deposit, wee happy to lose it and therefore didn't need to give any notice.  So bringing them back for these very busy sites would make the problem worse.

Also people cancel for a number of different reasons. You seem to imply, actually you say you have no doubt, that a small number book with the intention of cancelling but how do you know this is the case? Likewise how do you know you won't have to cancel?

And sadly booking on Jan 2nd for a 'honeypot' site is quite late. Club sites are popular.

Posted on 24/01/2017 13:40

The deposits required back then I think were only £5 for a booking whether 1 or 20 nights which is why people thought it was cheaper just not to turn up however if it was the cost of a night's booking and then £1 for each extra night, then maybe they would think twice about not arriving.

The C&CC seem to manage okay with deposits and there is availibility all year round even on their popular sites.

Randomcamper replied on 24/01/2017 14:01

Posted on 24/01/2017 13:40 by Surfer

The deposits required back then I think were only £5 for a booking whether 1 or 20 nights which is why people thought it was cheaper just not to turn up however if it was the cost of a night's booking and then £1 for each extra night, then maybe they would think twice about not arriving.

The C&CC seem to manage okay with deposits and there is availibility all year round even on their popular sites.

Posted on 24/01/2017 14:01

"The C&CC seem to manage okay with deposits and there is availibility all year round even on their popular sites."

 

Indeed. That is my impression, and why we recently joined the C & CC. I have found they have good and bad points but membership provides access to a whole range of alternative sites, some better located than CC sites (and some not - obviously).

It's been said on here many times, if you don't like something, vote with your feet, just moaning on here is unlikely to solve it!

My own view is to cream off the best of CC membership, C &CC sites and private where there is neither of the above.

If sufficient people vote with their feet then things will change, if they don't, then things cant be that bad....!! 

brue replied on 24/01/2017 14:16

Posted on 24/01/2017 14:16

A good time to book Rowntree is when the Jan-March dates are released later in the year. We've managed to get bookings when these dates become available.

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coachmanbutch replied on 24/01/2017 16:29

Posted on 24/01/2017 16:29

 I tried booking a week as part of a tour, on booking day at about 9.00 am, and all weekends were booked and as far as I can see no weekends are available now.

But it was nice see some people very happy that they had managed to book 3 or 4 weekends there.

 

mickysf replied on 24/01/2017 16:30

Posted on 24/01/2017 09:31 by DJG

1. The club must know if many people cancel.

2. If it is not too many then £10 non refundable

3. If there are quite a few then £30 non refundable might get rid of them!!

Posted on 24/01/2017 16:30

I'd add a 4th point to the above

4. If the number of cancellation is insignificant low or in line with the average on other sites, keep as is.

 I would prefer this as I think the current way works well!

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