Bristol Clean Air Zone

drc replied on 29/10/2019 19:59

Posted on 29/10/2019 19:59

Watching the local news tonight and the mayor of Bristol is proposing a clean air zone from 2021 which will have a diesel free zone in the centre which looks like it will include Baltic Wharf.

This will be in effect from 7am to 3pm, with a £100 fine for entering the zone.

If this comes into effect it will make it very difficult for any diesel tow cars or motorhomes to use the Baltic Wharf site,

 

replied on 30/10/2019 17:32

Posted on 30/10/2019 17:32

The next world war might resolve that

moulesy replied on 30/10/2019 17:33

Posted on 30/10/2019 17:33

"I see it impacting very widely, there are the ambulances and fire engines, neither readily converted to EVs or petrol powered by 2021."

According to local news it will only apply to privately owned vehicles (from 7am to 3pm) so I think emergency service vehicles will be exempt.

replied on 30/10/2019 17:45

Posted on 30/10/2019 17:45

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dave the rave replied on 30/10/2019 18:56

Posted on 30/10/2019 09:09 by ocsid

Pity it appears to treat all diesels as equal, not accepting the massive advances over older versions.

I see it impacting very widely, there are the ambulances and fire engines, neither readily converted to EVs or petrol powered by 2021.

I am very supportive of cleaning up pollution but believe it needs to be pragmatic and sensible, taking onboard the achievements of Euro6, certainly over Euro5 and older.

Will any of us be worrying over accessing Baltic Wharf, diesel user or not by 2021?

Posted on 30/10/2019 18:56

not if they ban the use of inhalers that keep some of us breathing after years of inhaling asbestos dust etc!!!!!!undecided

SeasideBill replied on 30/10/2019 20:10

Posted on 30/10/2019 20:10

This is all a bit academic as Baltic Wharf is living on borrowed time. The site is due for development and currently held on a rolling 6 months lease. The chances of this prime harbour-side site not being developed by 2021 must be slim. It’s a great site and will be a sad loss.

Freddy55 replied on 30/10/2019 22:55

Posted on 30/10/2019 22:55

I think it’s a great idea. If pollution levels are high, take steps to reduce them. Why is it though when one hears of these things, folks are lining up to pour cold water over them? Always looking for reasons for not doing something? We’ve even had a suggestion that another war will sort it out? I live in Bristol, I run a diesel (E6), I’ll live with it, no great hardship.

Lyke Wake Man replied on 01/11/2019 17:47

Posted on 01/11/2019 17:47

this is Government & Councils being stupid, as I have Asthma I know the facts, modern Diesels with a D.P.F. fitted don't cause any harm, a Petrol causes a lot more harm. 

Electric cars are only good for a City car, they have a range of about 200 miles, I for one drive 420 Miles when we go to Cornwall, to fully charge an Electric car you need an 8 hour charge, & where can you charge with a caravan on the back, firms reps can do up to 600 miles in  day, you cant do it with electric.

Will Bristol have electric busses, convert police, ambulance and fire pumps to electric. 

If Bristol want to be silly, then let the caravan club close the site and sell the land, Bristol businesses will lose a lot of money

SteveL replied on 01/11/2019 18:01

Posted on 01/11/2019 18:01

 If Bristol want to be silly, then let the caravan club close the site and sell the land, Bristol businesses will lose a lot of money

 

Unfortunately they don't own it. It is leased from the council, who want it back to develop / sell themselves. Hence the fact it is on borrowed time. 

hitchglitch replied on 01/11/2019 18:22

Posted on 01/11/2019 17:47 by Lyke Wake Man

this is Government & Councils being stupid, as I have Asthma I know the facts, modern Diesels with a D.P.F. fitted don't cause any harm, a Petrol causes a lot more harm. 

Electric cars are only good for a City car, they have a range of about 200 miles, I for one drive 420 Miles when we go to Cornwall, to fully charge an Electric car you need an 8 hour charge, & where can you charge with a caravan on the back, firms reps can do up to 600 miles in  day, you cant do it with electric.

Will Bristol have electric busses, convert police, ambulance and fire pumps to electric. 

If Bristol want to be silly, then let the caravan club close the site and sell the land, Bristol businesses will lose a lot of money

Posted on 01/11/2019 18:22

If anybody drives 600 miles in a day that’s almost criminal negligence. 420 miles is not much better. EVs never recharge from zero to 100%, usually 20% to 80% and this should take around  30 - 45 mins. maximum using present technology. Many people drive hundreds of miles with EVs. Please get your facts straight and your arguments may be more credible.

Wherenext replied on 01/11/2019 19:03

Posted on 01/11/2019 19:03

There was a report in the newspaper this week stating that an American University has developed a system for fast charging an electric car in 10 minutes, not hours but 10 minutes. It's more to do with developing the battery to accept such a charge. Developments occur so quickly that none of us really knows where we'll be, vis-a-vis, electric cars in 5 years time. 

Banning diesel cars in some cities at certain times is already happening. Better get used to being clobbered if we continue our pastime.

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