Overnight campers' action

Rufs replied on 19/11/2018 14:23

Posted on 19/11/2018 14:23

i quote from our local Conservative news letter, just received

"Motorhome overnighting along the Meon Shore road has increased significantly during this summer. Action is in hand to make the signage clearer and Hill Head Councillors will discuss with officers the best way to prevent a recurrence next summer"

so far from encouraging MH camping in local car parks as a number of members have been advocating, to fall in line with our collegues in Europe, my local council along with others in this area "Hampshire" are actively discouraging. Nothing against MH owners but I support this action, on the grounds that the area is fast becoming an unofficial MH park, and of course there are always the few that go the extra mile and abuse what are unofficial camping facilities, e.g. emptying toilet cassettes in the public toilets, cramming all their garbage into local waste bins, taking up all the car park bays, and using them as their own personal camping area, sometimes 2 bays. Being a caravaner I have never used an Aires, do the facilities that are provided officially within Europe get abused in the same way?, I know the adage "the few spoil it for the many", but we are being overrun by the many, probably because a lot of our sea front parking is free, something as locals, we cherish and would not want to loose as a result of overnight campers etc. Is there something amiss with us Brits or are our EU counterparts just as bad ? 

I should add as a footnote, although our local council are not massively in debt there are certainly no funds in the kitty to provide Aires type facilities, well not in the present climate, and even if they were, I am not sure local people would support such expenditure, ok the local ice cream shops may make a little bit extra, but i think most of the additional spend would go to the out of town super markets and not local shops. I do believe MH's are becoming a problem.

Takethedogalong replied on 19/11/2018 19:29

Posted on 19/11/2018 19:29

I agree with elements of both the last two posts. The problem in this country tends to revolve as always around money. Who will pay for any services required, (regardless of how little is actually required) and also, how much can we get away with charging? Couple that with some inconsiderate parking outside local residences, the tiny minority who do cause issues, and it becomes a negative response. Parking fees are big business, all across the country.

 

MichaelT replied on 19/11/2018 19:38

Posted on 19/11/2018 19:29 by Takethedogalong

I agree with elements of both the last two posts. The problem in this country tends to revolve as always around money. Who will pay for any services required, (regardless of how little is actually required) and also, how much can we get away with charging? Couple that with some inconsiderate parking outside local residences, the tiny minority who do cause issues, and it becomes a negative response. Parking fees are big business, all across the country.

 

Posted on 19/11/2018 19:38

See my post above regarding costs, only thumb in the air of course but maybe not too far off?

JVB66 replied on 19/11/2018 19:44

Posted on 19/11/2018 19:44

Locals are getting more and  more vocal about motor caravans parking on sea fronts and blocking the outlook from water front hotels and guesthouse also private property's, which did not occur so much in the past when it was just cars on the seafront at less than half the height, my brother on the IOW says it is also being looked at by the council

nelliethehooker replied on 19/11/2018 22:06

Posted on 19/11/2018 22:06

for those with 'green' chemical toilets (no fomaldehyde) you can empty safely into any toilet....we now only use bio washing pods...

So your'e a good guy, BB. But how do you, or anyone else, know what others are using in their cassettes. I would like to bet that the majority of those that are emptying their toilets i the public loos are using the standard blue fluid.

Bakers2 replied on 19/11/2018 22:23

Posted on 19/11/2018 22:06 by nelliethehooker

for those with 'green' chemical toilets (no fomaldehyde) you can empty safely into any toilet....we now only use bio washing pods...

So your'e a good guy, BB. But how do you, or anyone else, know what others are using in their cassettes. I would like to bet that the majority of those that are emptying their toilets i the public loos are using the standard blue fluid.

Posted on 19/11/2018 22:23

Ok silly question coming up embarassed

Does it matter what you're using in a toilet cassette? We use bio pods but occasional use organic fluid. Surely it all ends up at the treatment works?

I grew up with cess pit drainage, but that was many moons ago! We watched the amount of water used, to save emptying too often, but no other restrictions.

cyberyacht replied on 20/11/2018 07:34

Posted on 20/11/2018 07:34

I am somewhat puzzled by the proposed action in the OP as the parking area in question has only a wildlife area behind it and does not obstruct anyones view. Just a case of bye-law obsessed councils again.

mickysf replied on 20/11/2018 08:03

Posted on 20/11/2018 08:03

Those naysayers walk amongst us, particularly annoying are those that have no connection or understanding of our pastime whatsoever but still voice their opinion.

This sort of person often find themselves on council decision making bodies. It seems frequently to be a prerequisite mindset for becoming a counsellor in my opinion.

replied on 20/11/2018 08:17

Posted on 20/11/2018 08:17

Those naysayers walk amongst us, particularly annoying are those that have no connection or understanding of our pastime whatsoever but still voice their opinion.

There is nothing like an unbiased opinion Micky ...................... 

mickysf replied on 20/11/2018 08:24

Posted on 20/11/2018 08:24

True, guilty as suggested but nevertheless they do annoy me if they really have no understanding whatsoever of the issues and show no interest in finding out more before throwing their two pennyworth in. 

JVB66 replied on 20/11/2018 08:39

Posted on 20/11/2018 08:24 by mickysf

True, guilty as suggested but nevertheless they do annoy me if they really have no understanding whatsoever of the issues and show no interest in finding out more before throwing their two pennyworth in. 

Posted on 20/11/2018 08:39

And where does the idea come from that unless you own a motor caravan and use it as some do although by the amount noted on sites they are used just the same as as a towed  LV that "others?" do not understand

We used a P&R this year (Whitby?) and being a bit older needed to use the toilet, where some one had emptied a toilet cassette in one of the cubicles but had managed to pour most of it over the toilet and and floor yell

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