Overnight campers' action

Rufs replied on 19/11/2018 14:23

Posted on 19/11/2018 14:23

i quote from our local Conservative news letter, just received

"Motorhome overnighting along the Meon Shore road has increased significantly during this summer. Action is in hand to make the signage clearer and Hill Head Councillors will discuss with officers the best way to prevent a recurrence next summer"

so far from encouraging MH camping in local car parks as a number of members have been advocating, to fall in line with our collegues in Europe, my local council along with others in this area "Hampshire" are actively discouraging. Nothing against MH owners but I support this action, on the grounds that the area is fast becoming an unofficial MH park, and of course there are always the few that go the extra mile and abuse what are unofficial camping facilities, e.g. emptying toilet cassettes in the public toilets, cramming all their garbage into local waste bins, taking up all the car park bays, and using them as their own personal camping area, sometimes 2 bays. Being a caravaner I have never used an Aires, do the facilities that are provided officially within Europe get abused in the same way?, I know the adage "the few spoil it for the many", but we are being overrun by the many, probably because a lot of our sea front parking is free, something as locals, we cherish and would not want to loose as a result of overnight campers etc. Is there something amiss with us Brits or are our EU counterparts just as bad ? 

I should add as a footnote, although our local council are not massively in debt there are certainly no funds in the kitty to provide Aires type facilities, well not in the present climate, and even if they were, I am not sure local people would support such expenditure, ok the local ice cream shops may make a little bit extra, but i think most of the additional spend would go to the out of town super markets and not local shops. I do believe MH's are becoming a problem.

Rufs replied on 28/11/2018 16:07

Posted on 28/11/2018 15:52 by Tinwheeler

Why do you find it necessary to insult fellow club members, Rufs?

I only see one person in this thread with a chip on his shoulder and I think he’s a wannabe motorhomer.

Posted on 28/11/2018 16:07

curious as to where the insult is ???yes you are right i did want to be a MH owner, and did pursue this very vigouresly, however, the practicalities of say e.g. getting about with a dog, the possibility of running 2 cars plus a MH, the limitations on space after using a 7.3 mtr caravan for a large number of years led me to the decision that not yet.

moulesy replied on 28/11/2018 16:18

Posted on 28/11/2018 16:18

"As usual for this forum, Motorhoming has come under fire from the Caravanning fraternity.  "

And this statement from someone who didn't want the thread to turn into another caravan v motorhome debate?

So do enlighten us, K, what do you interpret as "as usual" and how many different members of the "Caravanning fraternity" have said anything criticising MHers in this thread?

Why do you persist in promoting this imagined us v them debate when, as far as I can tell, there is precious little evidence of it?

JVB66 replied on 28/11/2018 16:31

Posted on 28/11/2018 12:41 by DavidKlyne

Councils have a much wide ranging responsibility than that, parking being one of them. The Council here in MK makes millions in parking fees every year which at the end of the day helps to subsidise other much needed services. Obviously each case must be investigated by Council officials but even if the benefits, in terms of parking, were cost neutral there was bound to be and added benefit from extra visitors spending money locally. All I would say is for Councils to at least start from a neutral position and do the investigation to see whether it would work for them. For some it might not but for others, especially in tourist areas it could have a good pay back. Unfortunately this does not overcome local prejudice against even thinking about it as an option?

I wonder what would happen if Central Government made a small fund available to councils to provided these facilities. My guess is that they would be all over it like a rash and suddenly we would see parking spaces suitable for motorhomes spring up in the most unlikely places!

David

Posted on 28/11/2018 16:31

Central government have made a fund available to LAs to install infrastructure for EVs but the take up has been very poor,and that is for a " every one must have" project so a "fund" for what is proposed on here is IMHO not going to get much support from LAs

young thomas replied on 28/11/2018 17:13

Posted on 28/11/2018 16:31 by JVB66

Central government have made a fund available to LAs to install infrastructure for EVs but the take up has been very poor,and that is for a " every one must have" project so a "fund" for what is proposed on here is IMHO not going to get much support from LAs

Posted on 28/11/2018 17:13

I don't think there is a need for central government to provide funding, we aren't ever going to end up with the sort of Aires system that Europe enjoys...

however, funding for a few white lines and an upgrade to a ticket machine to incorporate MHs osnt expensive or rocket science.

what is difficult is to convince folk like the OP that all who drive MHs aren't pariahs..

some will be just out for the day from a campsite, looking for somewhere to (pay to) park while exploring the area...

however, some will be looking to (pay to) overnight (and then move on directly) after, perhaps, a meal in town....

are either of these groups bent on the destruction of the places they visit?....of course not...

Cornersteady replied on 28/11/2018 17:41

Posted on 28/11/2018 16:18 by moulesy

"As usual for this forum, Motorhoming has come under fire from the Caravanning fraternity.  "

And this statement from someone who didn't want the thread to turn into another caravan v motorhome debate?

So do enlighten us, K, what do you interpret as "as usual" and how many different members of the "Caravanning fraternity" have said anything criticising MHers in this thread?

Why do you persist in promoting this imagined us v them debate when, as far as I can tell, there is precious little evidence of it?

Posted on 28/11/2018 17:41

+1

the only one who keeps mentioning this MH v caravan is Kundecided

JVB66 replied on 28/11/2018 17:57

Posted on 28/11/2018 17:13 by young thomas

I don't think there is a need for central government to provide funding, we aren't ever going to end up with the sort of Aires system that Europe enjoys...

however, funding for a few white lines and an upgrade to a ticket machine to incorporate MHs osnt expensive or rocket science.

what is difficult is to convince folk like the OP that all who drive MHs aren't pariahs..

some will be just out for the day from a campsite, looking for somewhere to (pay to) park while exploring the area...

however, some will be looking to (pay to) overnight (and then move on directly) after, perhaps, a meal in town....

are either of these groups bent on the destruction of the places they visit?....of course not...

Posted on 28/11/2018 17:57

I agree that gov funding is not required it should be down to the LA taxpayerswink

DavidKlyne replied on 28/11/2018 19:17

Posted on 28/11/2018 16:31 by JVB66

Central government have made a fund available to LAs to install infrastructure for EVs but the take up has been very poor,and that is for a " every one must have" project so a "fund" for what is proposed on here is IMHO not going to get much support from LAs

Posted on 28/11/2018 19:17

It very much depends on the local council. Here in MK we have lots of charging points for EV's. Now that could be down to a forward looking Council probably helped that is is likely to be easier to install such points in MK and in more traditional towns.

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