Overnight campers' action

Rufs replied on 19/11/2018 14:23

Posted on 19/11/2018 14:23

i quote from our local Conservative news letter, just received

"Motorhome overnighting along the Meon Shore road has increased significantly during this summer. Action is in hand to make the signage clearer and Hill Head Councillors will discuss with officers the best way to prevent a recurrence next summer"

so far from encouraging MH camping in local car parks as a number of members have been advocating, to fall in line with our collegues in Europe, my local council along with others in this area "Hampshire" are actively discouraging. Nothing against MH owners but I support this action, on the grounds that the area is fast becoming an unofficial MH park, and of course there are always the few that go the extra mile and abuse what are unofficial camping facilities, e.g. emptying toilet cassettes in the public toilets, cramming all their garbage into local waste bins, taking up all the car park bays, and using them as their own personal camping area, sometimes 2 bays. Being a caravaner I have never used an Aires, do the facilities that are provided officially within Europe get abused in the same way?, I know the adage "the few spoil it for the many", but we are being overrun by the many, probably because a lot of our sea front parking is free, something as locals, we cherish and would not want to loose as a result of overnight campers etc. Is there something amiss with us Brits or are our EU counterparts just as bad ? 

I should add as a footnote, although our local council are not massively in debt there are certainly no funds in the kitty to provide Aires type facilities, well not in the present climate, and even if they were, I am not sure local people would support such expenditure, ok the local ice cream shops may make a little bit extra, but i think most of the additional spend would go to the out of town super markets and not local shops. I do believe MH's are becoming a problem.

Metheven replied on 24/11/2018 22:56

Posted on 24/11/2018 22:56

There's plenty of room for caravans, motorhomes to park along the front, even more up by the allotment sheds fronting the beach adjacent to Meon Shore road.

cyberyacht replied on 25/11/2018 07:24

Posted on 25/11/2018 07:24

I'm a local council tax payer. I don't have the least problem with MH's having a "freebie night or two". As for charging for the privilege, again I have no objection to a nominal fee for a night's stay provided it is commensurate with the facilities provided. FBC don't provide the tarmac, HCC do. The rough ground is provided by mother nature.

young thomas replied on 25/11/2018 08:47

Posted on 24/11/2018 18:27 by Rufs

clearly BB/DD think that you are the good guys within the Mh owners fraternity, but clearly BB you have not grasped the principal of "why should local tax payers fund your life style even if for only 1 day", you bought your castle on wheels, and you expect to live your life of dreams, pay for it.

Posted on 25/11/2018 08:47

Rufs, perhaps you haven't grasped it.....in fact it's my darling OH and me who have funded our lifestyle....from our hard earned.

we bought the vehicle, taxed it and use it in accordance with any restrictions.

i don't park on uk streets very often, nor uk car parks...our uk touring tends to be sites, CL, THS....whereas when abroad we make far more use of stopping places...

however, if a uk car park has a few MH spaces, to 'welcome visitors' I'd be happy to use one, and pay for it..

ive already said it would bother me if cars (locals) were free and I was paying...

i don't see how this can be freeloading, sponging or other descriptions.

 

Rufs replied on 25/11/2018 09:10

Posted on 25/11/2018 09:10

Thank you to ALL who have contributed to this post, it has been an enlightening experience to have been able to participate. For those of you who require a catch up, I think the below demonstrate how a few unsociable and sometimes unlawful people spoil it for the many. Yes this is Cornwall some 8 years ago and i believe the problem has been resolved by the intrduction if some new bye laws. I am glad to say that in my local area such bye laws were introduced before we had the problem, and it would not surprise me if additional bye laws were introduced to prohibit habitation on the public highway which is allowed today, which i would support, so come on down folks use it before you loose it  

asta la vista/bon voyage enjoy your living dream

www.bbc.co.uk/news/10535003

That’s 8 year old news Rufs. It solved the problem, which was a true problem, immediately. MHs can still park up in daytime at either Marazion or Longrock, but they no longer overnight there. It was a true case of visitors taking advantage of something for nothing, to the detriment of not only local inhabitants, but also other visitors to area. Families with small children unable to access some of routes onto beach, dog walkers having to walk dogs out into road into oncoming traffic, you couldnt get between some of the vans they were so close. A bit more than a single camper van copping a late night stopover in a none residential area. Ironically, the area has dozens of lovely campsites as well, from very cheap, to all mod cons, so no excuse really.

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Kennine replied on 25/11/2018 10:37

Posted on 25/11/2018 10:37

I doubt it. ---- In some cases, Caravanners and Motorhomers still seem to be two separate opposing entities on this forum..------- A situation I've never found on any other caravanning/Motorhome forum, there  nobody cares about what accommodation other people  choose--- they just get along fine. That's the way it should be. smile

wink

rayjsj replied on 25/11/2018 11:24

Posted on 25/11/2018 09:10 by Rufs

Thank you to ALL who have contributed to this post, it has been an enlightening experience to have been able to participate. For those of you who require a catch up, I think the below demonstrate how a few unsociable and sometimes unlawful people spoil it for the many. Yes this is Cornwall some 8 years ago and i believe the problem has been resolved by the intrduction if some new bye laws. I am glad to say that in my local area such bye laws were introduced before we had the problem, and it would not surprise me if additional bye laws were introduced to prohibit habitation on the public highway which is allowed today, which i would support, so come on down folks use it before you loose it  

asta la vista/bon voyage enjoy your living dream

www.bbc.co.uk/news/10535003

That’s 8 year old news Rufs. It solved the problem, which was a true problem, immediately. MHs can still park up in daytime at either Marazion or Longrock, but they no longer overnight there. It was a true case of visitors taking advantage of something for nothing, to the detriment of not only local inhabitants, but also other visitors to area. Families with small children unable to access some of routes onto beach, dog walkers having to walk dogs out into road into oncoming traffic, you couldnt get between some of the vans they were so close. A bit more than a single camper van copping a late night stopover in a none residential area. Ironically, the area has dozens of lovely campsites as well, from very cheap, to all mod cons, so no excuse really.

Posted on 25/11/2018 11:24

Surely banning 'habitation' ie overnight sleeping in a vehicle on the public highway, will hit HGV Truckers who are taking their enforced breaktimes ? As well as Caravaners/motorhomers taking a sleep break on a long journey, after all we are encouraged to 'take a break' and not drive whilst tired. That is what laybys are for after all.

An overnight ban at known problem areas will stop most.....except travellers...who are apparantly a 'Race apart' and must be treated with kid gloves ?  

Think this is mainly a storm in a 'Conservative News'  teacup. IMHO.

Takethedogalong replied on 25/11/2018 11:28

Posted on 25/11/2018 11:28

Rufs, try and stop using my posts to illustrate your point. Your one camper van is nothing like the situation at Marazion that had been growing probably for decades before it became an issue. 

Cornwall is still a very very welcoming place for caravans and MHs, big car parks taking all kinds of vehicles. 

To be honest, all you have done for this potential visitor to your area is put me off, with or without our MH. 

 

 

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