Manual or Auto towcar
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PATMAU replied on 04/01/2022 18:53
Posted on 04/01/2022 18:53
Auto every time. We have been towing for 47 years. Initially we towed with a manual, but having driven my then Boss's auto company car, I persuaded OH to give an auto a try when we were trading in, and we haven't had a manual since.
It makes towing effortless and is a boon on long journeys. Because we have a small caravan, there are 2 necessaries in a cars spec that we must have, storage space and auto. Currently looking at the Honda CR-V.
I really appreciate it more than ever these days, as I have arthritis in my knees, and I couldn't manage a car with gear change.
EmilysDad replied on 04/01/2022 20:37
Posted on 17/11/2021 19:18 by Cornersteadyfull respect there then. I've never been able to master left foot braking and nowhere near as accurate as using my right foot.
I used to drive my dad mad by double de-clutching in his car, it didn't need it but I though I was being sporty and clever. I can still hear him saying do that in your own car and ruin your own clutch.
To my shame when I did get my own car I never did it
Cornersteady replied on 04/01/2022 21:00
Posted on 04/01/2022 20:37 by EmilysDadOnly just seen this .. you won't damage or break anything by double de-clutching a synchromesh gear box π
EmilysDad replied on 04/01/2022 21:48
Posted on 04/01/2022 21:00 by CornersteadyThanks for the reply. I might try again but I think I've lost the mental and physical coordination to do it now!
Posted on 04/01/2022 21:48
just stick with 2 pedals .... π
A few years back I drove Emily's manual car a mile or so home after a fault meant there was no clutch. Emily was amazed it was even possible .... just a case of matching revs & road speed. π Guess who had to fix the clutch fault! π
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ChocolateTrees replied on 05/01/2022 16:39
Posted on 17/11/2021 16:46 by cyberyachtOnly auto I spent any time with was a hire car in the USA about fifteen years ago, driving from Charlotte NC to Orlando FL and back. Took a little while getting used to but the downside when I came home, I'd forget to depress the clutch when stopping. I've always had manuals as that was the car I was looking at. No real preference either way. We'll all be auto's once we've gone electric.
Posted on 05/01/2022 16:39
We'll all be auto's once we've gone electric.
Not quite - BEVs (almost all) are not automatic - they simply don't have gears at all. It's surprisingly different to driving an auto, and actually an even more relaxed (or engaging depending on how you are driving) experience.
EmilysDad replied on 05/01/2022 20:41
Posted on 05/01/2022 16:39 by ChocolateTreesWe'll all be auto's once we've gone electric.
Not quite - BEVs (almost all) are not automatic - they simply don't have gears at all. It's surprisingly different to driving an auto, and actually an even more relaxed (or engaging depending on how you are driving) experience.
ChocolateTrees replied on 06/01/2022 08:24
Posted on 05/01/2022 20:41 by EmilysDadYou're splitting hairs there CT. What do you class a CVT as then? .... no gears on them either just a 'rubber band'. As far as your licence is concerned, if it has 2 pedals, it's an automatic.
Posted on 06/01/2022 08:24
I don’t think it’s splitting hairs. The question wasn’t about licences, it was about the usefulness of manual vs auto for towing. I was pointing out that from a gears perspective an EV is quite different to an automatic gearbox in the way power is managed and delivered. CVT transmission are different to an auto gearbox scan. And indeed dual clutch auto boxes are different to torque converter boxes.
They all have different properties for solo driving and towing. The autos I have towed with were variably successful. The Chrysler Grand Voyager 4 speed column shift was terrible. The XC90 6 speed was good. My V60 PHEV has more or less the same 6 speed box as the XC90, but adds an electric axel which made it even better for towing. But the Polestar blows them all away. I have not towed with a CVT or dual clutch. How do they fair?
EmilysDad replied on 06/01/2022 08:37
Posted on 06/01/2022 08:24 by ChocolateTreesI donβt think itβs splitting hairs. The question wasnβt about licences, it was about the usefulness of manual vs auto for towing. I was pointing out that from a gears perspective an EV is quite different to an automatic gearbox in the way power is managed and delivered. CVT transmission are different to an auto gearbox scan. And indeed dual clutch auto boxes are different to torque converter boxes.
They all have different properties for solo driving and towing. The autos I have towed with were variably successful. The Chrysler Grand Voyager 4 speed column shift was terrible. The XC90 6 speed was good. My V60 PHEV has more or less the same 6 speed box as the XC90, but adds an electric axel which made it even better for towing. But the Polestar blows them all away. I have not towed with a CVT or dual clutch. How do they fair?
Rocky 2 buckets replied on 06/01/2022 09:49
Posted on 06/01/2022 08:37 by EmilysDadI know the question wasn't about licences .. Of course they're all different inside .... but they all use 2 pedals, which make them 'automatics'.
I've not towed with CVT or DCT, but having driven cars with them I'd only tow with a proper slush box auto
ChocolateTrees replied on 06/01/2022 09:50
Posted on 06/01/2022 08:37 by EmilysDadI know the question wasn't about licences .. Of course they're all different inside .... but they all use 2 pedals, which make them 'automatics'.
I've not towed with CVT or DCT, but having driven cars with them I'd only tow with a proper slush box auto
Posted on 06/01/2022 09:50
So - answering the OPs question, "Manual or Auto" - seems very valid to differentiate between torque converter (slush auto), CVT, DCT and single speed (EV) . Not splitting hairs at all .
EV single speed is good. Many torque converter autos are good (XC90) some are not (Grand voyager). CVT and DCT are open for more feedback?
Two pedal driving vs three pedal driving (manual) is nice, but down to personal preference.
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