Motor homes and payloads

Jax1234 replied on 31/10/2019 14:46

Posted on 31/10/2019 14:46

Currently own a caravan but was looking at replacing with a 2nd hand motor home...BUT having decided on layout I am increasingly concerned at payload. It would be for 2 of us plus dog and 2 push bikes. Was looking at something like the Autotrail 632.( Liked the idea of fixed bed plus garage) Budget around £40k

I'm starting to get the impression that with a 3500 KG Gross Vehicle Weight this might not be possible. It's made even harder to work out as most of the dealer web sites don't give any indication of payload or MIRO. Any pointers or advice?

 

Thanks

Tammygirl replied on 31/10/2019 21:39

Posted on 31/10/2019 21:39

We had a Bailey 625se MH, never had a problem with the payload, we weighed everything the first time out, took it to weighbridge and still had plenty left. We had a full water tank but we never travelled with it full more like 40 ltrs. However some of the bigger vans of that make struggle to stay within the allowance.

MichaelT replied on 01/11/2019 09:52

Posted on 01/11/2019 09:52

 It is not only payload but Axle weights you need to watch.  On our previous van we were within the payload when we had it weighed however we were very near to the 2000kg rear axle limit.  If we went up to the full 3850kg it may have tipped the rear axle over the limit and that was without bikes.  Not had the new van weighed yet as we have not been past the weighbridge which is 30 miles away but hoping to soon to get an idea of where we are but as we are now plated at 4500kg hoping we have plenty to spare even with 2 bikes in the garage now....

young thomas replied on 01/11/2019 10:26

Posted on 01/11/2019 10:26

as Michael says, most wont have a problem on the 'heavy' 4250kg chassis, but licence restrictions may apply.

the 3650/3850 upgrades are used by salesman to allay any customer 'payload fears' yet do nothing to alleviate the usual rear axle issues found as vans move to 7m or so....and beyond.

Swift have a 8m+ van in their range running at 3500 with about 250kg payload and a rear axle thats close to the limit the moment the water tank is filled and the passenger steps aboard.

Jax1234 replied on 04/11/2019 14:35

Posted on 04/11/2019 14:35

Thanks everyone. Plenty to think about. Currently have a 6 berth twin axle caravan for the 2 of us and am starting to think I might just upgrade that. Will continue a search for a suitable motor home for the time being but not easy when most dealer sites don't even give an indication of pay load. There must be lots of people that get caught out with this.

JVB66 replied on 04/11/2019 15:03

Posted on 31/10/2019 20:32 by

I understand it perfectly. I have the largest estate car oh the market in terms of volume capacity and a payload over and above us of around 500kg and although nothing is ever weighed I think we are not far off when fully loaded with the kit I dare not put in the van, awning, tables chairs bikes etc etc . We dont do minimalist, if we want it and it can be packed it goes with us..

Posted on 04/11/2019 15:03

So your payload   (as ours with your estate car)is above what  a lot of motor caravans can carry ,so how do you "understand"pooŕ payloads with as us all the payload of your carwink

KjellNN replied on 04/11/2019 17:33

Posted on 31/10/2019 19:03 by JVB66

Since our ten years of motor caravans and now back with towing a caravan,I have yet to  understand all the "negative?"worry about payloads of caravans, as the ever present go almost any where with no getting ready to move,support vehicle along side with  enough load capacity for all our long tour needscoolwink

Posted on 04/11/2019 17:33

JVB, the point is that UK caravan payloads are notoriously low these days, and sometimes upgrades are not available or are only small.  

By the time you have added the battery etc and a Mover, the amount left for clothes, bedding, food and other essentials is totally inadequate, just ask TammyGirl!

Not everyone wants to have to fill their car with so much stuff, especially when touring with maybe only 4 or 5 nights at each place.

Tinwheeler replied on 04/11/2019 17:38

Posted on 31/10/2019 19:03 by JVB66

Since our ten years of motor caravans and now back with towing a caravan,I have yet to  understand all the "negative?"worry about payloads of caravans, as the ever present go almost any where with no getting ready to move,support vehicle along side with  enough load capacity for all our long tour needscoolwink

Posted on 04/11/2019 17:38

The fact that you don’t understand the problem doesn’t mean that it does not exist, JV.

replied on 04/11/2019 17:51

Posted on 04/11/2019 15:03 by JVB66

So your payload   (as ours with your estate car)is above what  a lot of motor caravans can carry ,so how do you "understand"pooŕ payloads with as us all the payload of your carwink

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JVB66 replied on 04/11/2019 17:58

Posted on 04/11/2019 17:38 by Tinwheeler

The fact that you don’t understand the problem doesn’t mean that it does not exist, JV.

Posted on 04/11/2019 17:58

I did not say it does not exist, but I would think that most who buy caravans, will look at what can be carriedundecided?and they as others have mentioned can carry a quite large payload in the tow vehicle,some caravans have quite large payloads but then they are already heavy, which in the uk market is not compatible with most owners tow vehicles

KjellNN replied on 04/11/2019 18:13

Posted on 04/11/2019 18:13

I think, with both caravans and MHs, that purchasers may not realise just how low the payloads often are, and dealers are not rushing to bring that fact to the attention of potential customers.

A heavy caravan is not a problem for the correct tow vehicle, but if you have not researched your various weights properly before making a purchase, you can make a very expensive mistake!

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