No Calor Gas bottles

AlastairPhoenix replied on 29/03/2021 19:11

Posted on 29/03/2021 19:11

Bought a new Bailey Phoenix 440 and taking delivery next week. Dealer has no bottles due to national shortage at Calor. I'm a nearly-newbie (used to caravan 15 years ago) so I have no bottle.

I have been trying without success to find a bottle......what a strange time we live in! So new caravan and no gas.

I am in central Scotland so I'm hoping as we get out of lockdown I can go further afield and pick up a bottle somewhere then once I'm in the 'calor club' I can go and exchange it for a full one.

Until then, mains only......

Any ideas?

 

 

DavidKlyne replied on 24/01/2022 17:10

Posted on 24/01/2022 16:31 by eribaMotters

Back on track, I tried to locate a Calor Lite refill end of last week as after 5 seasons and a winter trip on the horizon it is finally running very low. I used the Calor website to find agents and phoned up those in my surrounding area. No luck and then eventually I chanced upon a listing for my local C&MC site, Southport. They had two and I duly relieved them of one. How had I managed to miss the potential source is beyond me, so it could be worth a try if you are in need and as daft as I am.

On another forum a fellow van owner was also searching and came across a change in Calor bottle rental agreement that was not detailed on there site. You can now only swap bottles on a like for like basis, ie exactly the same bottle when it come to the Calor Lite, such is the short supply still.

 

Colin

Posted on 24/01/2022 17:10

Colin

The last para is somewhat unfair of Calor as many of us have had to surrender Calor Lite bottles in order to get a replacement gas bottle of any variety. I now have one full Lite and a partially used standard cylinder. So when the standard is empty I don't think I am going to be able to return to having two Calor Lite unless the supplying dealer is willing to turn a blind eye?

David

eribaMotters replied on 24/01/2022 17:25

Posted on 24/01/2022 17:25

I totally agree with you David. Unfair practice by Calor. I tried to mind a dealer who was both a Calor and Flogas agent to see if I could swap an empty Calor Lite against what appear to be coming the more readily available Flogas. These are within mm of being the same size and about the same weight. I found Camperlands of Manchester are a multi supplier but did not call them to enquire. https://www.camperlands.co.uk/caravan-gas-bottles-refills/?keep_https=yes#rfplist

 

Colin

replied on 24/01/2022 17:38

Posted on 24/01/2022 17:38

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DavidKlyne replied on 24/01/2022 20:48

Posted on 24/01/2022 17:38 by

This is a bad enough situation  for us caravanners but today on R4 have been hearing of domestic customers without gas for heat or cooking.

Posted on 24/01/2022 20:48

It was previously on Watchdog on the BBC Oneshow. They seem to be blaming shortage of drivers but given that gas cylinder supply has been a problem for the last two years they don't seem to be doing a lot to resolve the issue? I have had food deliveries from Waitrose for the best part of two years now and fortunately they have never let me down. 

David

Hedgehurst replied on 24/01/2022 20:55

Posted on 24/01/2022 20:55

Is it still the case that Gaslow only work in M/H's?
I'm another user of Calorlite, and not looking forward to having to add all that extra weight when the present one runs out, even assuming I can find any steel ones round here at the time.

Navigateur replied on 24/01/2022 21:20

Posted on 24/01/2022 20:48 by DavidKlyne

It was previously on Watchdog on the BBC Oneshow. They seem to be blaming shortage of drivers but given that gas cylinder supply has been a problem for the last two years they don't seem to be doing a lot to resolve the issue? I have had food deliveries from Waitrose for the best part of two years now and fortunately they have never let me down. 

David

Posted on 24/01/2022 21:20

I don't think that any national training certification is required to deliver food.  Not just anyone is allowed by regulations to deliver gas.

cyberyacht replied on 25/01/2022 06:35

Posted on 24/01/2022 20:55 by Hedgehurst

Is it still the case that Gaslow only work in M/H's?
I'm another user of Calorlite, and not looking forward to having to add all that extra weight when the present one runs out, even assuming I can find any steel ones round here at the time.

Posted on 25/01/2022 06:35

Neither Gaslow or Gaslite will save you weight. The only lightweight cylinders are Safefill or Gasbank.

Rufs replied on 25/01/2022 09:30

Posted on 25/01/2022 09:30

"On another forum a fellow van owner was also searching and came across a change in Calor bottle rental agreement that was not detailed on there site. You can now only swap bottles on a like for like basis, ie exactly the same bottle when it come to the Calor Lite, such is the short supply still"

I have not had any change of contract notification from Calor and my contract, that is some 20 years old, mentions only 6kgs LPG nothing concerning "Lite" probably because Lite cylinders were not available, so contractually i guess Calor have to supply 6kg of LPG in whatever cyclinder.

My stockist told me only this week that the like for like only applies to size of cylinder and type of gas, it is also not possible to start a new contract at this time.

My stockist has not had a delivery since before Xmas.

on the van i have 1 full 6kg lite LPG and 1 probably 3/4 full and I have just salvaged 2 x 4.5 kg butane cylinders from daughters old caravan 1 is full 1 is empty, bought new regulator/connection, £11.50, so that i can run the gas bbq which i currently connect to gas via caravan connector, will hopefully, be able to exchange the empty for full some time soon.

Dont use a lot of gas but i guess if you use a lot of CL's with no EHU and you have to run a fridge off of the gas or heat water then this could become a problem.

cyberyacht replied on 26/01/2022 07:48

Posted on 25/01/2022 09:29 by eribaMotters

You have me confused. Lightweight bottles are available. Flogas & Calor Lite are near identical in dimensions and weight.

https://www.flogas.co.uk/product/6kg-propane-gas-cylinder#specification

https://www.flogas.co.uk/product/5kg-gaslight

 

Colin

 

Posted on 26/01/2022 07:48

Calorlite is about 5KG empty and hold 6Kg gas. A Safefill/Gasbank weighs about the same empty but can hold 10Kg gas, so on a capacity basis, Calorlites aren't. They are just a bit lighter than the original type bottles.

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