Club Vouchers

scotts replied on 02/05/2020 09:06

Posted on 02/05/2020 09:06

As they are advertising I’d thought I’d get some BUT chose not to as they only post them & charge £2;50 -WHY? - Just a thought as this is How to make caravanning cheaper why are they not e-vouchers - like every where else - come on Club!

SteveL replied on 02/05/2020 16:29

Posted on 02/05/2020 14:47 by no one

Its in the Club Mag as DEC 2021

Posted on 02/05/2020 16:29

Didn't realise that. As the mag is put together ages before we get it. It would seem that was always the intention and the no expiry date in the online T&C's a mistake. Any responsible company would be admitting the mistake and offering to buy back the vouchers, also refunding initial postage and the cost of getting then back by a secure means.

JVB66 replied on 02/05/2020 18:00

Posted on 02/05/2020 15:41 by Takethedogalong

We have just had a discussion here. Our renewal is due end of this month. We won’t be going anywhere for at least another three months as far as I am concerned, so in the light of this we have made a business orientated decision, and have terminated our Membership until some semblance of what is going to be the new normal is in place. Our primary use has been and remains the CL network and the occasional Club Site. We don’t use anything else the Club offers, nor are we likely to for the foreseeable future. 

Its not a decision taken lightly, we have been loyal members of what used to be a very nice, helpful touring organisation, offering great sites often at cheap prices in lovely locations. But each year for at least the last five or six years has seen us questioning the move away from being that Club, the loss of some lovely sites, some business decisions undertaken without much reference to Club Members, the ever increasing Summer Site fees way above what we want to pay, the acquisition of sites we will never use (Scarborough #2), the unhelpful drive to make CLs mini Club Site clones, and now over the last couple of months the fiasco over keeping sites open and the misinformation about the so called discount voucher offer. We have enough experience and site contacts to be able to still get out there and enjoy our touring should the current pipe dream happen, and certainly don’t rely on the Club for anything.

So, for us, it is a self determined break, we can get the value we want by renewing as and when we need to, but there’s no way we want to be propping up the six figure salaries of one or two individuals who haven’t covered themselves in glory these past few weeks. Our respect and thanks to the staff at the shop face remains unreserved.

Posted on 02/05/2020 18:00

I quite understand your "concerns?"but as for CLs becoming "club site clones" i would think is more down to the requirements,  it seems ,of what is expected going by posts of newer members ,it is as some others say  ,to bring them up to date for membersundecided 

brue replied on 02/05/2020 18:03

Posted on 02/05/2020 16:09 by CJDM

Introducing an expiry date doesn't make sense. It means that they have to be used sooner so surely there will be cash flow issues next year? If it was 'endless' then usage could be spread over a number of years.

Posted on 02/05/2020 18:03

It might be that people will need to use the sites earlier rather than later so that might encourage others to do so? I presume it's going to be quite difficult to get people back onto sites and get the cash flow going.

I haven't considered the vouchers at all as just now it's rather like giving someone £100 and they give you £20 back but you still haven't got anything! Had the vouchers been released later when the sites start to open they would no doubt have been a good incentive.

nelliethehooker replied on 02/05/2020 20:20

Posted on 02/05/2020 20:20

Two things spring to mind....There was bound to be price increases, (there always is), but I suspect that when they come out for next year they'll be well above those that were projected by the club before the vouchers were thought about and issued and that will eat heavily into any saving made by getting the vouchers now.

Secondly I foresee the club introducing a joining fee over and above the annual membership fee, as a way to increase income especially from those that have postponed their renewal as they are not using their units at the moment.

 

 

 

DavidKlyne replied on 02/05/2020 20:24

Posted on 02/05/2020 15:41 by Takethedogalong

We have just had a discussion here. Our renewal is due end of this month. We won’t be going anywhere for at least another three months as far as I am concerned, so in the light of this we have made a business orientated decision, and have terminated our Membership until some semblance of what is going to be the new normal is in place. Our primary use has been and remains the CL network and the occasional Club Site. We don’t use anything else the Club offers, nor are we likely to for the foreseeable future. 

Its not a decision taken lightly, we have been loyal members of what used to be a very nice, helpful touring organisation, offering great sites often at cheap prices in lovely locations. But each year for at least the last five or six years has seen us questioning the move away from being that Club, the loss of some lovely sites, some business decisions undertaken without much reference to Club Members, the ever increasing Summer Site fees way above what we want to pay, the acquisition of sites we will never use (Scarborough #2), the unhelpful drive to make CLs mini Club Site clones, and now over the last couple of months the fiasco over keeping sites open and the misinformation about the so called discount voucher offer. We have enough experience and site contacts to be able to still get out there and enjoy our touring should the current pipe dream happen, and certainly don’t rely on the Club for anything.

So, for us, it is a self determined break, we can get the value we want by renewing as and when we need to, but there’s no way we want to be propping up the six figure salaries of one or two individuals who haven’t covered themselves in glory these past few weeks. Our respect and thanks to the staff at the shop face remains unreserved.

Posted on 02/05/2020 20:24

We have been members for all but 40 years and have no intention of jumping ship unless we decide to give up completely. Personally I don't think the Club has changed that much during that period beyond refreshing itself as the years have gone along. You mention Cayton Village. To my mind this is exactly the sort of site the Club should be buying. Its an excellent location with good transport links which suits both caravanners and motorhomers. With regard to CL's I expect they are just following a trend demanded by the majority of members most of whom don't want to sit in a fied with a tap and a hole in the ground. Things have moved on, whilst that might not suit your requirements it does for many members which is often illustrated by the popularity of many of the things you seem to dislike. I am not sure why people obsess about salaries. For one thing I expect you don't know what senior people in the club earn and because of that you won't know how that compares with similar sized organisations which is probably what such wages are based on. For those giving up their membership for a few months and then rejoining to me seems like an empty gesture. The personal administration of cancelling and rejoining is not worth the tiny amount of money saved, is it?

David

nelliethehooker replied on 02/05/2020 20:47

Posted on 02/05/2020 20:47

David for some it certainly won't be about the money that they will save but as an obvious protest against those actions that the club have and haven't made during this epidemic.

Tinwheeler replied on 02/05/2020 20:55

Posted on 02/05/2020 20:47 by nelliethehooker

David for some it certainly won't be about the money that they will save but as an obvious protest against those actions that the club have and haven't made during this epidemic.

Posted on 02/05/2020 20:55

Many have said as much, Nellie.

I think TDA's mistake was in expressing her views so eloquently which has made her a target for a few arrows.

JVB66 replied on 02/05/2020 21:05

Posted on 02/05/2020 21:05

If  thats the way you want to look at things   ,then need you need to broaden your outlook ,  To the very many  problems that the vast majority of companies and governments are trying to get their heads around,   With this very new problem that is affecting the worldundecided

Tinwheeler replied on 02/05/2020 21:18

Posted on 02/05/2020 21:05 by JVB66

If  thats the way you want to look at things   ,then need you need to broaden your outlook ,  To the very many  problems that the vast majority of companies and governments are trying to get their heads around,   With this very new problem that is affecting the worldundecided

Posted on 02/05/2020 21:18

I took my blinkers off a long time ago with regards to the club.

EmilysDad replied on 02/05/2020 21:20

Posted on 02/05/2020 21:05 by JVB66

If  thats the way you want to look at things   ,then need you need to broaden your outlook ,  To the very many  problems that the vast majority of companies and governments are trying to get their heads around,   With this very new problem that is affecting the worldundecided

Posted on 02/05/2020 21:20

And you seem to have a very blinkered of your beloved club. I agree 100% with TtDA, the money side of not renewing our membership didn't enter into it ... I'll be paying half the club's membership to the National Trust while in lockdown, the option by the CC to defer fees, like the other club, would have been nice.

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