Thinking about getting a Safefill cylinder

Xenopodus2 replied on 06/06/2021 10:05

Posted on 06/06/2021 10:05

Hi All,

I'm thinking about getting a refillable Safefill gas cylinder to use in the caravan but also (quite a lot) on my BBQ at home. Currently I have a Calor patio gas cylinder I use for both which has a clip on regulator. 

Does anybody know if it's possible to use a clip on regulator with a Safefill cylinder or am I going to have to change both sets of fittings?

And while I'm here ... the Club's FAQs say :

"We advise against user-owned, portable LPG cylinders refilling at Autogas refuelling sites."

but without any explanation as to why. Does anybody know why they take this position?

TIA,

Dave

peedee replied on 09/06/2021 21:56

Posted on 09/06/2021 21:56

I am on the road again tomorrow and have way marked a couple of garages on route fromt he  FillLPG App to refill an empty tank I have. I will let you know how I get on.

peedee

young thomas replied on 10/06/2021 08:55

Posted on 10/06/2021 08:55

...as Peedee says, while its nice to have a local place you can fill, like petrol/diesel, these fill points are scattered over the whole country. 

touring takes us all in different directions, sometimes one fill isnt enough for one tour, especially if using some off grid THS sites where gas will be required for hot showers.

those who use ehu sites all the time wont be using a refillable in the same way as someone who has a much larger requirement for gas.

for those who do use more, good upto date info on locations and realtime availability on route is much more important.

hence the recomendations for filllpg and mylpg apps/websites.

Roger McNair replied on 10/06/2021 12:27

Posted on 10/06/2021 12:27

Dave,

We purchased 2 x 7.5 Safefill cylinders and are delighted with them. A significant weight saving over steel cylinders and lower gas costs were the reasons behind our purchase. We have two local LPG sites which allow the refilling of portable cylinders - its worth checking this before you purchase a cylinder. If you intend touring abroad for long periods of time (as we do post Covid) there are significant cost advantages in using refillable cylinders compared to Camping Gaz. The reason many fuel distributors are turning away from LPG is because the number of LPG fuelled vehicles on our roads is rapidly diminishing as they are replaced by PHEVs and more economical petrol and diesel models.

Roger

peedee replied on 10/06/2021 14:54

Posted on 09/06/2021 21:56 by peedee

I am on the road again tomorrow and have way marked a couple of garages on route fromt he  FillLPG App to refill an empty tank I have. I will let you know how I get on.

peedee

Posted on 10/06/2021 14:54

 

Result, the first waypoint garage, a Morrisons, had LPG at £0.579 per  Litre

peedee

peedee replied on 10/06/2021 14:55

Posted on 09/06/2021 21:56 by peedee

I am on the road again tomorrow and have way marked a couple of garages on route fromt he  FillLPG App to refill an empty tank I have. I will let you know how I get on.

peedee

Posted on 10/06/2021 14:55

Result, the first waypoint garage, a Morrisons, had LPG at £0.579 per  Litre

peedee

mickysf replied on 11/06/2021 21:33

Posted on 10/06/2021 14:55 by peedee

Result, the first waypoint garage, a Morrisons, had LPG at £0.579 per  Litre

peedee

Posted on 11/06/2021 21:33

Yes Peedee, with the sad demise of so many fuel stations selling auto gas, we always take the opportunity to refill if half full or less whenever we pass one on route that does. Not been caught out yet but been close but now forever mindful as some on that App have long since ceased sell it. However, I was shocked to see that 2.5kg camping gaz cylinders are selling at £39 just for the refill! Now work that out at cost per litre. And guess who is refilling this brand!

cyberyacht replied on 20/06/2021 07:37

Posted on 10/06/2021 14:55 by peedee

Result, the first waypoint garage, a Morrisons, had LPG at £0.579 per  Litre

peedee

Posted on 20/06/2021 07:37

Calor exchange bottles work out at over £2 per litre for the gas you get plus the weight penalty of those heavy bottles.

If considering a refillable, there is a similar bottle to the Safefill marketed under the "Gasbank" brand which has a fixed filling point although about £70 dearer. This can overcome the reluctance of some LPG outlets to allow Safefills to be refilled despite them being perfectly safe and designed to do so. 

A 6Kg Calor exchange will cost you about £27. A refill of the same amount of LPG will be about £7. If you are always on hook-up and don't travel abroad for more than two weeks then it's probably not cost effective. 

What would really be progressive would be if the CAMC provided LPG refill facilities from the LPG tanks on club sites. Don't expect that anytime soon though from this dinosaur organisation.

Roger McNair replied on 20/06/2021 09:25

Posted on 20/06/2021 09:25

What would really be progressive would be if the CAMC provided LPG refill facilities from the LPG tanks on club sites - Cyberyacht

There's an idea worth pursuing - lets see if the Club read this and respond!

 

SteveL replied on 20/06/2021 09:57

Posted on 09/06/2021 21:56 by peedee

I am on the road again tomorrow and have way marked a couple of garages on route fromt he  FillLPG App to refill an empty tank I have. I will let you know how I get on.

peedee

Posted on 20/06/2021 09:57

I didn’t get on with FillLPG and used the myLPG.eu to check out Morrison’s in the Doncaster area. Worked very well and can be updated for availability and price. Before I updated it on the 19th it was showing as available on the 9th. Available in App / web formats, the web version giving more info, such as if cylinder filling is allowed and pump locations.

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