Couldn't get into Rowntree at York (who can!!!) This site was very close to Clifton Moor and a short ride by bus into York centre. The bus stop is 100 yards from the CL. The main road is very busy as is the track past the CL to the farm shop,cafe and commercial site but saying that the noise wasnt too bad. The CL was lovely ,next to a private lake,with water,waste water and electric points close by The chemical toilet building was a bit of a trek but again no bother. There is free fishing 300 yards away but the two lakes were only half full of water and I struggled to catch anything other than sardine size roach. There is a commercial lake adjacent to the CL and I may try there next time as it looked ok. The warden was lovely and for £15 we will be back.