Cheaper holidays EV charging

KSKAT replied on 09/07/2023 08:58

Posted on 09/07/2023 08:58

The cheaper way to go touring charge your EV over night for free ?   is this why site fees are going up ? 

 

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GTrimmer replied on 31/07/2023 09:34

Posted on 31/07/2023 08:52 by JohnM20

Whilst fires actually started by the battery in an EV are recognised by the fire service and they have a strategy for dealing with them, what are the hazards if the car is involved in a fire started externally, eg parked in a garage at home and the house catches fire or vandalism / riots and the car is deliberately set fire to? Are batteries fireproofed against this type of fire?

I know these examples are very rare and I could have sighted other scenarios but I'm sure you get my drift. In these sorts of instances, would the fire service know that a car involved was an EV or will they be treating every fire involving a car as though it was?

Posted on 31/07/2023 09:34

"In these sorts of instances, would the fire service know that a car involved was an EV or will they be treating every fire involving a car as though it was?"

Those pretty green stripes on the number plates will tell them all they need to know tongue-out

 

JohnM20 replied on 31/07/2023 09:46

Posted on 31/07/2023 09:34 by GTrimmer

"In these sorts of instances, would the fire service know that a car involved was an EV or will they be treating every fire involving a car as though it was?"

Those pretty green stripes on the number plates will tell them all they need to know tongue-out

 

Posted on 31/07/2023 09:46

Not all EVs have pretty green stripes on the number plate.

MikeyA replied on 31/07/2023 16:27

Posted on 09/07/2023 11:18 by GTrimmer

Interesting that this topic is posted under 'making touring holidays cheaper' .

I've long held the view that the vast majority of EV users have followed that route simply to save money,,and for them 'saving the planet is of minor importance if of any relevance at all.

The sooner they pay a sensible share of car tax the better.

Posted on 31/07/2023 16:27

It seems to me that if you want to save money then you don't buy an EV in the first place. 

I received an email from Volvo the other day and the difference in cost of leasing (PCP) a XC40 mild hybrid versus a XC40 EV is astonishing.

Over the 48 month duration period , the cost for MH is £23,469 whilst the EV is £38,319.

If you the decide to pay the balloon payment to own the car outright, the final totals are:

MH  £41,165 compared to £63,474 for the EV.

 

ChocolateTrees replied on 31/07/2023 19:33

Posted on 31/07/2023 16:27 by MikeyA

It seems to me that if you want to save money then you don't buy an EV in the first place. 

I received an email from Volvo the other day and the difference in cost of leasing (PCP) a XC40 mild hybrid versus a XC40 EV is astonishing.

Over the 48 month duration period , the cost for MH is £23,469 whilst the EV is £38,319.

If you the decide to pay the balloon payment to own the car outright, the final totals are:

MH  £41,165 compared to £63,474 for the EV.

 

Posted on 31/07/2023 19:33

"Don't Buy an EV to save money" may be valid. "Dont Use an EV to save money" may be a different question. It really depends on your personal circumstances as to how affordable (or not) an EV may be for you. 

As a company car driver, it's the cheapest way to have a new car on my drive. By a loooong way. 

DavidKlyne replied on 31/07/2023 21:01

Posted on 31/07/2023 21:01

A neighbour, whose drive is opposite mine, has just taken delivery of a Kia EV6, strangely the same colour as mine Niro HEV. That car has a list price of £62500. Didn't realise I had such well off neighbourswink It transpires from having a chat with him that he got the car through the company he works for of a salary sacrifice scheme. I have no idea how that works but it must a pretty good deal for him, especially up to now he and his wife are running a couple of cars over ten years old!

David

nelliethehooker replied on 31/07/2023 21:35

Posted on 30/07/2023 23:14 by ChocolateTrees

And how many of those fires have actually been attributed to the EVs on the ships in question? Definitely not the second so far. It’s still on fire and no root cause has been identified as far as I am aware? Was the first attribute to an EV fire, or was it another unexplained fire on a ship in which some EVs happened to be involved?

Posted on 31/07/2023 21:35

A as far as the first one is concerned it will probably never certain of the cause as the vessel is on the sea floor, and I very much doubt accessible to those who job it is to ascertain the  cause of the fire, but the intensity of the foreclosure to it having been caused by an EV battery. The fire on the  F H was very similar hence the thoughts are that it was caused in the same way. Should they manage to get int the vessel the investigators may then be able to say for certain now and why it started. Until then it is only speculation.

ChocolateTrees replied on 01/08/2023 08:29

Posted on 31/07/2023 21:35 by nelliethehooker

A as far as the first one is concerned it will probably never certain of the cause as the vessel is on the sea floor, and I very much doubt accessible to those who job it is to ascertain the  cause of the fire, but the intensity of the foreclosure to it having been caused by an EV battery. The fire on the  F H was very similar hence the thoughts are that it was caused in the same way. Should they manage to get int the vessel the investigators may then be able to say for certain now and why it started. Until then it is only speculation.

Posted on 01/08/2023 08:29

Hi Nellie, 

I am not sure I buy into that. The EVs on board would have contributed to fuel the fire to burn on. But l there is no evidence that they started it. Indeed all the evidence to date points to EVs being far less likely to spontaneously catch fire than petrol or diesel cars. 
It’s just as likely that the fire started elsewhere and spread to the EVs.

 

BrendasLad replied on 29/09/2023 16:47

Posted on 29/09/2023 16:47

Where is the fairness in charging £9 for both a hybrid which will get barely 40 miles from a charge and also for a full electric which will get 100+ miles from its overnight charge!?

And how much extra are those folks charged who run their aircon units for 24 hours in midsummer?

We do need metered electricity supplies - NOW !

Oscarmax replied on 01/10/2023 11:16

Posted on 01/10/2023 11:16

Early this year we visited Chirk CMC the EV chargers are 22 kWh, we have just returned from Blacknowl in the New Forest their EV charger are only 7 kWh, both sites you can only charge in £6.08 10kWh block charge.

Charging up from the caravan is a real restrictive and a pain, we tow with a PHEV, we no longer use any commercial EV charger, financially it is cheaper to run the PHEV as a petrol hybrid whether towing or running solo, 50 pence a kWh is our break even point.  

brian1 replied on 05/10/2023 21:00

Posted on 01/10/2023 11:16 by Oscarmax

Early this year we visited Chirk CMC the EV chargers are 22 kWh, we have just returned from Blacknowl in the New Forest their EV charger are only 7 kWh, both sites you can only charge in £6.08 10kWh block charge.

Charging up from the caravan is a real restrictive and a pain, we tow with a PHEV, we no longer use any commercial EV charger, financially it is cheaper to run the PHEV as a petrol hybrid whether towing or running solo, 50 pence a kWh is our break even point.  

Posted on 05/10/2023 21:00

I've worked out that the break-even for us is around 35p/kWh.  So it's pretty rare we charge up when away from home.  When we're on a C&CC site is one of the exceptions. 

Quite frankly, the CAMC's charge is a rip-off, certainly for PHEVs like ours.

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