Cheaper holidays EV charging
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Takethedogalong replied on 11/07/2023 09:18
Rocky 2 buckets replied on 11/07/2023 09:26
Posted on 11/07/2023 09:14 by EmilysDadbut as per Vulcan's/The Daily Mail's article, lithium batteries are far from the whole answer.
Posted on 11/07/2023 09:26
There’s problem solving going on a daily basis-LiFePO4 batteries are the new normal ED. Remember we’ve perfected the ICE over around 150yrs & it is still ongoing, just not quick enough. Folk can say what they like but you can’t vote for mass extinction & the world knows that.
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replied on 11/07/2023 09:37
Rocky 2 buckets replied on 11/07/2023 09:51
Posted on 11/07/2023 09:37 byJust been out for the first longer run in my new towcar and its 2 litre diesel engine returned just over 70 mpg , not towing of course. If anyone had told me a few years back this level of efficiency was remotely possible I would have thought it jest.
An open door is being kicked but my new tow car will see me out now. We have a 15 year old petrol roundabout that struggles to better 30mpg but would we pay the price of an EV to replace it not likely.
RowenaBCAMC replied on 11/07/2023 10:41
Posted on 11/07/2023 10:41
Hi everyone, As already mentioned by members on this discussion, Hybrid cars and Electric cars are charged a rate of £9 per charge (this is worked out on the assumption a car is plugged in overnight, via your outfit using a mode 2 cable drawing a maximum of 2.3kw, which is the same regardless of the car type).
More info on electric charging can be found on the FAQs: Electric Vehicle Charging
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DavidKlyne replied on 11/07/2023 11:19
Posted on 11/07/2023 11:19
Andrew Ditton has just published his latest YouTube video of a trip from just north of London to Moffat in Scotland in his EV towing a caravan. As he points out he is not trying to say towing with an EV is for everyone but he hopes his video helps those who are thinking of going down the EV route.
David
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ChocolateTrees replied on 11/07/2023 18:43
Posted on 10/07/2023 20:30 by EmilysDad.... & over to Mr Chocolate Trees ..... 😉😉😉
Posted on 11/07/2023 18:43
Hahah...
Matt Ridley and the Daily Mail - two sources that you can 100% trust to be spouting untruth and misinformation about anything "green". That opinion piece is worth what you paid for it
The Mail have had a daily attack over the last week on EVs specifically attempting to stoke the flames under a reversal of the 2030/2035 ICE sales ban.
I am not going to attempt to debunk each of the claims he has made - there are others that have done that already, but pretty much every "fact" he states is either a misrepresentation or a downright lie.
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ChocolateTrees replied on 12/07/2023 00:18
Posted on 09/07/2023 11:36 by DavidKlynePeople will buy EV's for all sorts of reasons including wanting to be greener. I think difficult argument to put forward that owners are getting a better deal than those that stay with ICE cars. I have just taken delivery of a Kia Niro Hybrid. Had I wanted I could for £5000 more gone for the plug in Hybrid or for an extra £10000 I could have had a full EV so quite where saving money comes in is a bit difficult to establish. OK as TW say servicing is cheaper and I think only every two years, at least on some models. So there is a saving there. Then there is the cost of charging. My son has an arrangement with Octopus Energy (I am sure there are other schemes?) whereby he charges for 4 hours overnight at, I think, 12p per Kwh which is enough to keep the battery topped up for normal use. But on the other hand if you go for a commercial charge its much more so I would question, taking all things considered, whether the ownership of an EV is much cheaper, although that will depend on how much you use it. I think the Government has already put in place the adding on of VED to EV's from a certain date? Why they want to fall back on old technology I don't know. Far better to introduce road pricing which would be a much fairer way.
David
Posted on 12/07/2023 00:18
My reason for getting an EV was green first, nerdy second and cost savings third, though for me the savings are significant and real.
As folks here will know, my Polestar is a company car, and the tax breaks that the government offer mean it is a cheap way of paying for the pleasure of having a new car on the drive for the length of the lease.
Charging from home overnight accounts for most of my electricity usage in the car (as opposed to public charging). In the last month I have used about 450kWh of overnight electricity at 9.5p per kWh. I.e. less than £45. Thats enough for over 1500 miles of driving.
Last week we were away in the caravan and spent a total of about £190 on public charging for almost exactly 700 miles of holiday, including 320 miles of towing (180 miles each way). Thats an average of about 27p per mile, or an equivalent of about 24mpg at £1.45 a litre of petrol or diesel. I would have been very happy with that number in the XC90.
But if you include the previous months driving, you end up with an average of 66mpg at £1.45 a litre. And that’s averaging just that one month…
Road pricing is indeed a much more sensible solution, and I hope it is adopted one day.
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