When the lockdown ends

collinn replied on 30/04/2020 15:31

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Posted on 30/04/2020 15:31

I know Boris does not like to hear this but the lockdown is being pushed by economics, I live on the edge of Manchester and can see a marked increase in traffic as more people go back to work. More shops and small buisineses have opened and even the bigger food takeaway chains are talking of opening all of them following strict guidelines. Many shops etc have been open all along. Even talk of football matches being played.

The club should now be looking at the possibilities of how the sites can be run under strict guidelines. There is not going to be a magic date when everything returns to normal as there will not be a normal as we used to know but a new normal of which all organisations such as CAMC should be prepared for. If any preparations are being made we should know about them and be given a chance to comment and submit suggestion. This is not what the club is used to but does what it wants and if it does not listen to its members it will see the membership numbers fall.

JUST LOOK AT THE MEMBERS COMMENTS AND FOR ONE PUT A COMMENT THERE WILL BE MANY WHO WILL THINK WHY BOTHER AND JUST NOT RENEW MEMBERSHIP.

Colin H

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obbernockle replied on 30/04/2020 23:06

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Posted on 30/04/2020 22:36 by eurortraveller

French citizens have already been told that from 11 th May they can travel freely up to 100 km from their homes. The indications are that their campsites will start to reopen with some restrictions soon after that, and presumably the 100km. travel limit will apply for visitors to them.

That's a model which the UK government may choose to follow and if so independent UK sites may seize the opportunity and start to re open before Club sites do.

Posted on 30/04/2020 23:06

I spoke to a French camsite manager where we have a June booking. Its as clear as crystal that we will not be going there under any circumstances this year. The french Government has not declared what will happen to countries outside the Shengen area, nor has there been any mention about transport links from UK to France. The ferry companies are waiting for instructions from their government and they will be manouvering to recover some costs from somewhere. At the moment the French border is closed and she couldnt say whether their Government have a date for opening and any additional rules. Also not declared is what facilities will remain closed. It seems swimming pools, bars and restaurants will not (Perhaps takeaway only). There is no hint what they will do about toilet/shower facilities for tourring pitches. They could open sites for the statics/cabins/sheds or whatever they are called. If any touring pitches are open the site managemnt doesnt have a clue about water and waste hygene regime. Policing or enforcement of the rules will be the responsibility of the site, and they may prefer not to participate in that game. The big issue is how do they control social distancing remembering that many sites are family orientated and may have more statics and less touring pitches which can be closed at lower comercial cost.

JVB66 replied on 01/05/2020 13:18

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Posted on 30/04/2020 22:12 by Tinwheeler

I’m not sure how the club is supposed to look at how sites can be run under strict guidelines when no one knows what regulations/guidelines the Govt might put in place or even when/if sites will be allowed to open.

Until all factors are known, I don’t see what the club can do and I’m not sure we have any right to know about them and to chip in with ideas as we are unlikely to be fully aware of regulatory criteria and not many members are experienced in site management. I'll leave it to the club to follow and implement whatever rules and regs the Govt might impose on businesses and the population as a whole.

Don't forget, the Govt ordered sites to close, along with other holiday businesses, and it’s not up to the club to open when it thinks fit.

Posted on 01/05/2020 13:18

As we have now been advised that 17 sites are giving "refuge" to some members ,and according to posts from one of those sites the toilet/showers are open, what sort of social distancing is being applied to enable this?

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Posted on 30/04/2020 23:06 by obbernockle

I spoke to a French camsite manager where we have a June booking. Its as clear as crystal that we will not be going there under any circumstances this year. The french Government has not declared what will happen to countries outside the Shengen area, nor has there been any mention about transport links from UK to France. The ferry companies are waiting for instructions from their government and they will be manouvering to recover some costs from somewhere. At the moment the French border is closed and she couldnt say whether their Government have a date for opening and any additional rules. Also not declared is what facilities will remain closed. It seems swimming pools, bars and restaurants will not (Perhaps takeaway only). There is no hint what they will do about toilet/shower facilities for tourring pitches. They could open sites for the statics/cabins/sheds or whatever they are called. If any touring pitches are open the site managemnt doesnt have a clue about water and waste hygene regime. Policing or enforcement of the rules will be the responsibility of the site, and they may prefer not to participate in that game. The big issue is how do they control social distancing remembering that many sites are family orientated and may have more statics and less touring pitches which can be closed at lower comercial cost.

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Tinwheeler replied on 01/05/2020 13:42

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Posted on 01/05/2020 13:18 by JVB66

As we have now been advised that 17 sites are giving "refuge" to some members ,and according to posts from one of those sites the toilet/showers are open, what sort of social distancing is being applied to enable this?

Posted on 01/05/2020 13:42

It would be interesting to know. 🤔

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JollyKernow replied on 01/05/2020 13:45

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Posted on 01/05/2020 13:42 by Tinwheeler

It would be interesting to know. 🤔

Posted on 01/05/2020 13:45

Glad I'm not on one of those sites

collinn replied on 01/05/2020 20:16

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Posted on 01/05/2020 20:16

There is not going to be a magic day whether this year or the next when the sites all open and things go back as they were. When they do there will be restrictions which will reduce the risk of infections .which is absolutely the right way to do it. These will have an impact on the way we use the facilities (If we can use some of the facilities).

The club management should be looking at what options are available. The information is out there as we have seen and heard on a daily basis.

This would certainly involve the absolutely fantastic site wardens and staff as they would be on the front line. Any input from them should be taken serious.

Our reason for joining the club is to use our preferred outfits AND DO THIS SAFELY.This should be the sole focus of the club. Additionally keep us informed and listen to suggestions.

So come on CAMC let see some proactive thoughts and keep us informed

Cheers

Colin H

collinn replied on 01/05/2020 20:27

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Posted on 30/04/2020 23:06 by obbernockle

I spoke to a French camsite manager where we have a June booking. Its as clear as crystal that we will not be going there under any circumstances this year. The french Government has not declared what will happen to countries outside the Shengen area, nor has there been any mention about transport links from UK to France. The ferry companies are waiting for instructions from their government and they will be manouvering to recover some costs from somewhere. At the moment the French border is closed and she couldnt say whether their Government have a date for opening and any additional rules. Also not declared is what facilities will remain closed. It seems swimming pools, bars and restaurants will not (Perhaps takeaway only). There is no hint what they will do about toilet/shower facilities for tourring pitches. They could open sites for the statics/cabins/sheds or whatever they are called. If any touring pitches are open the site managemnt doesnt have a clue about water and waste hygene regime. Policing or enforcement of the rules will be the responsibility of the site, and they may prefer not to participate in that game. The big issue is how do they control social distancing remembering that many sites are family orientated and may have more statics and less touring pitches which can be closed at lower comercial cost.

Posted on 01/05/2020 20:27

We have family live in france and communicate regular and they seem to have far more stringent conditions. You are doing the right thing especially after what we saw when the infection started and how it affected everyone, also the effects of Brexit have not surfaced yet.

Cheers

Colin H

collinn replied on 01/05/2020 20:33

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Posted on 01/05/2020 13:42 by Tinwheeler

It would be interesting to know. 🤔

Posted on 01/05/2020 20:33

I would have thought that any communal facilities would be closed and have to use on board facilities. However I hope it is working well for them.

We are both in our late 60s and my wife is having medical treatment and both had letters putting us in quarantine for 12 weeks and ad vised to use separate bed rooms and separate bathrooms I wish.

Cheers

Colin H