PHEV/EV Charging

When it was mentioned about members abusing the system when it was suggested that EHU should be optional if needed ,it was suggested by some that all members would be honest and not abuse the system  I think the reply from EGH shows a different. story

I am sorry but the answer to this is an easy one YES the wardens can tell the difference between them all ice cars including self charging hybrids known as FHEV`s have one filler cap for fuel only, all plug in hybrids known as PHEV`s have two filler caps one for fuel and one for the charging cable, and all full EV cars have one filler cap which is for the charging cable,

so someone trying to claim there EV is a PHEV would stand out a mile as it would have two filler caps and not to mention the exhaust pipe sticking out the back 

it seems to me that the club have made the decision based on what’s easier for them and rather than have two options which would mean the wardens having to check peoples honesty they have gone with one option of a single charge cost for both EV and PHEV meaning they don’t after check and most of us must be dishonest.

while we are the dishonest label a recent visit i made on one club site was shocking when i saw two separate visitors not staying on site visiting a motor home in full EV cars and charging from the unused hookup points I wonder if they paid £9

Thanks for the update, CT. The club told us at the start when EV/PHEV charging arrangements were introduced that it was a stop gap measure but I can't help thinking they're being a bit slow in getting to grips with the situation. 

Thanks for the update.  Its helpful.

Its pretty easy to tell a PHEV from a EV or a fossil fuel car.  Just look round the car at the fuel filler points.  A PHEV will have two - a fossil filler and an electric filler.  Surely thats an easy check without staff having to know car models or ask for V5 docs etc.

Who did you write to at the Club?  

Save yourselves the worry and £9, use the other club. LINK

I totally agree with you and winni that the inability to determine PHEV from EV is a cop out, and further the idea that this policy will allow a simpler enforcement is pretty dumb. Indeed, the punitive costs for the PHEV user is more likely to result in abuse, rather than a willingness to pay. 

The reply came from Member & Guest Relations Coordinator, Site Operations. 

Aren't full EVs the only cars with the green rectangle on the number plate?

In theory yes, but it's not mandatory at all to have the green stripe, and it too is open to abuse. I have seen PHEVs with a green stripe wrongly fitted by the dealer, and other ICE only cars with a green stripe fitted as a pointless exercise. 

However - this would (in theory) be an easy tell. 

I have just had this back from Ofgem. 

"Apologies for the delay but this isn’t an easy scenario.  I’ve drafted something and it’s under review, I hope to be able to send it your way early next week."

They (at least) are obviously taking this seriously!

There’s nothing green on our number plate 🤷🏻‍♂️

The car not having a front grille is a clue but it’s not conclusive as the Polestar demonstrates.

I have emailed the CMC regarding the dedicated EV charger installed at Cayton site, charging speed and current charge per kWh, I am awaiting a reply