PHEV/EV Charging

Oscarmax replied on 15/04/2022 08:23

Posted on 15/04/2022 08:23

Noticed this yesterday, from the 5th April 2022 charging up a PHEV has increased from £2.00 to £9.00, for us that work out at 90 pence a kWh ?

https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/whats-on/caravan-club-news/vehicle-charging-on-uk-club-campsites/

brue replied on 07/06/2022 14:42

Posted on 07/06/2022 14:42

Thanks ChT. I don't think we'll contemplate charging our EV on site, £9 on top of the pitch fee is too expensive when we've already paid an inclusive fee and have to reduce the supply to the van. 

Oscarmax replied on 07/06/2022 15:30

Posted on 07/06/2022 15:30

I can see the CMC simply stopping the charging of PHEV/EV on site unless from a dedicated EV charging point, at the end of the day they do not have to offer this option.

I simply charge our PHEV off site at commercial EV charging points less hassle

ScreenName1DB0833583 replied on 17/06/2022 10:23

Posted on 17/06/2022 10:23

I have been lobbying the Club over this. Our Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV does 30 miles on electric only, half as much when towing - £9 to drive 15 miles?!! I appreciate it would be difficult to come up with a flexible price for all the different PHEVs, but it must be worth doing something - just how many pure electric tow cars are going to use Club sites in 2022? My guess is virtually none, so the £9 charge is pointless.

replied on 17/06/2022 11:40

Posted on 17/06/2022 10:23 by ScreenName1DB0833583

I have been lobbying the Club over this. Our Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV does 30 miles on electric only, half as much when towing - Β£9 to drive 15 miles?!! I appreciate it would be difficult to come up with a flexible price for all the different PHEVs, but it must be worth doing something - just how many pure electric tow cars are going to use Club sites in 2022? My guess is virtually none, so the Β£9 charge is pointless.

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ChocolateTrees replied on 17/06/2022 12:17

Posted on 17/06/2022 11:40 by

If they reduce the price too much there is a risk that CC Ltd and therefore the other customers will be subsidising PHEV vehicle users; which hardly seems fair.  Metering could be the answer but only if the price the users pay also covers the cost of system installation and maintenance.   What solution have you suggested to CC Ltd.?

Posted on 17/06/2022 12:17

Why not go back to £2 pr £3 per PHEV charge per night? The idea that full EV users are identifying as PHEV users is nonsense. I imagine that the number of full EV users on club sites is vanishingly small (though I am one), and those that are there will happily pay the £9 for a charge given the convenience.

The possibility that a PHEV user will "sneak" a charge is not reduced by having a common price. Indeed it's increased as the cost of charging is (probably) unlawfully high. 

 

peedee replied on 17/06/2022 13:14

Posted on 17/06/2022 13:14

The £9 charge was probably introduced to discourage charging on site. I heard the Club is currently evaluating suppliers of electricity meters. If they do find a suppllier who meets the requirements, meters will be introduced when sites become due for an upgrade.

peedee

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 17/06/2022 13:28

Posted on 17/06/2022 11:40 by

If they reduce the price too much there is a risk that CC Ltd and therefore the other customers will be subsidising PHEV vehicle users; which hardly seems fair.  Metering could be the answer but only if the price the users pay also covers the cost of system installation and maintenance.   What solution have you suggested to CC Ltd.?

Posted on 17/06/2022 13:28

I have no issue with subsidising full EV’s at all, in fact it will salve my conscience(in a small way) due to me driving a 3.5t oil burner. C&MC-have at itπŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»

ChocolateTrees replied on 17/06/2022 13:33

Posted on 17/06/2022 13:14 by peedee

The Β£9 charge was probably introduced to discourage charging on site. I heard the Club is currently evaluating suppliers of electricity meters. If they do find a suppllier who meets the requirements, meters will be introduced when sites become due for an upgrade.

peedee

Posted on 17/06/2022 13:33

I don't think so. The charge was £1 for PHEV and £8 for BEV. it t hen went up to £2 and £9 last year, then was standardised on £9 to simplify the system. If they wanted to discourage charging - ban it, just as the CCC have done. It's no harder to police a complete ban than it is to police a charge. Much easier in fact, as with a paid system some users will have paid and some wont. Now the wardens have to identify who has paid and who has not as opposed to ticking off all guests that are plugged in. 

I believe they made a (semi) sensible decision, intended to simplify things for the wardens, and its back fired as its likely not legal, and discourages PHEVs as tow cars. 

Personally, I hope meters come in sooner rather than later. 

brue replied on 17/06/2022 13:40

Posted on 17/06/2022 13:40

When was the C&CC ban announced CT? Until now I thought a charge could be made via the van at the managers discretion (in case of heavy on site usage.)

ChocolateTrees replied on 17/06/2022 14:26

Posted on 17/06/2022 13:40 by brue

When was the C&CC ban announced CT? Until now I thought a charge could be made via the van at the managers discretion (in case of heavy on site usage.)

Posted on 17/06/2022 14:26

Ah - Sorry Brue - I think you are right. By managers discretion only. I am not a CCC member, and picked that up else where - should have checked before passing on. 

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