Ability to chose hardstanding pitches on all sites

Posted on 09/09/2021 09:28 by JVB66

May this year was the wettest month on record ,which when using as an example for apart from not being equipped for the vagaries of the worlds weather now let alone the uk . is not doing your case for special treatment for motor caravans by saving hardstands for them if booked on a site much good

Posted on 09/09/2021 10:29 by AandJ

Think you and a few others have missed the point totally.

Not asking for special treatment for motorhomes, asking only for choice for ALL to book Hard standing where Standard pitches are the only option on the system but in reality are a mix of hard standing and grass and the system doesn’t let you choose. If there were only grass left I would not book and look for something else or commercial site. This means all members are not offered the same equality of choice.

It would also help the earlier arrivals rush, to get hard standing, and the morning dance as the wardens call it of people all moving from grass to hard standing the next day so by the time new arrivals get there yet again no hard standing left. 

The whys and were fors are irrelevant here as are peoples driving / pitching skills (everyone is a newby and  start & learn at some point) we did this 12  years ago and most members were helpful not critical or sarcastic.
Please let’s stick to the point and keep it friendly, oops that’s the other club 😂😂

 

 

 

 

Posted on 09/09/2021 09:30 by Cornersteady

Any pitch out of use will be lost income and how long does it take for a pitch to recover? Much easier to have HS as that won't need to happen and no lost income and all round year use.

Regarding what causes it I don't think it's mostly due to wheel spin at all but as Steve was saying, and I've seen, is the effects of having a dead grass area due to multiple awnings on the same spot for the whole summer. Again HS won't be affected.

I think as the demand for more year round touring increases more HS will be needed.

 

 

Posted on 09/09/2021 10:29 by AandJ

Think you and a few others have missed the point totally.

Not asking for special treatment for motorhomes, asking only for choice for ALL to book Hard standing where Standard pitches are the only option on the system but in reality are a mix of hard standing and grass and the system doesn’t let you choose. If there were only grass left I would not book and look for something else or commercial site. This means all members are not offered the same equality of choice.

It would also help the earlier arrivals rush, to get hard standing, and the morning dance as the wardens call it of people all moving from grass to hard standing the next day so by the time new arrivals get there yet again no hard standing left. 

The whys and were fors are irrelevant here as are peoples driving / pitching skills (everyone is a newby and  start & learn at some point) we did this 12  years ago and most members were helpful not critical or sarcastic.
Please let’s stick to the point and keep it friendly, oops that’s the other club 😂😂

 

 

 

 

Posted on 09/09/2021 10:07 by DavidKlyne

BB said:-

If the club is to allow pitch type selection, it has to be sure it can offer a suitable product to all customers...its no good selling grass pitches to those that prefer them on sites that clearly cant support winter MH traffic.

in this case, it would need advance planning to withdraw grass pitches from sale from a specific date (would vary on each site base on warden local knowledge) so that customers don't arrive to unsuitable pitches.

I think this already happens on those sites with a mix of grass and hardstandings. We have been to Seacroft several times in October and always booked a serviced pitch to make sure we have a hardstanding only to learn that grass pitches are taken out of action from the 1st October!!! It would help if the Club told us this in advance? If the ability to book a pitch type becomes a reality surely the Club are going to have to decide in advance when those pitches will be available and block them out accordingly on the booking page?

As an aside I just don't understand why some in this discussion question why some of us prefer using a hardstanding pitch. The problem is I suspect that those that prefer grass  are the ones that want to keep the option open to use a hardstanding if the weather is bad and any system where you select the pitch type on booking might mean in severe conditions it will be the people who have booked grass that will have their site visit cancelled?

David

Posted on 09/09/2021 09:30 by Cornersteady

Any pitch out of use will be lost income and how long does it take for a pitch to recover? Much easier to have HS as that won't need to happen and no lost income and all round year use.

Regarding what causes it I don't think it's mostly due to wheel spin at all but as Steve was saying, and I've seen, is the effects of having a dead grass area due to multiple awnings on the same spot for the whole summer. Again HS won't be affected.

I think as the demand for more year round touring increases more HS will be needed.

 

 

Posted on 09/09/2021 10:06 by AandJ

Weight plays a big part, not sure of caravan weights but guess at most 2.5 tonnes ?

Most motorhomes / van conversions are a minimum of 3.5 tonnes ranging through to 7.5 tonnes. A lot  somewhere in the middle. It does make a difference. The club is called CAMC and motorhomes have grown in popularity, so the club options just need to reflect these changes and offer appropriate choice to all, it’s supposed to be an apolitical club!111

Posted on 09/09/2021 11:18 by young thomas

The two are slightly linked in that, whichever way the Club goes it must offer the correct and fit-for-purpose pitches whichever type the customer chooses.

leaving grass pitches on the 'available' list late into the year when they turn out to unusable for those who've chosen them, isn't on.

it's a tough call for the club to withdraw pitches months ahead of booking but will lead to much dissatisfaction if a poor/unusable product is presented.