Amenity blocks closed until 17th May

NutsyH replied on 09/03/2021 17:17

Posted on 09/03/2021 17:17

Anyone realised this. I just don't get it. Why can pubs open their shared toilets for outdoor diners / drinkers,  motorway services shared toilets never been closed, but caravan & camping sites can open 12th April but can't open their amenities until 17th May. And I would bet that most site toilets are far more hygienic and cleaned more often than pubs and motorway services. Bonkers.

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Takethedogalong replied on 27/03/2021 20:26

Posted on 27/03/2021 19:33 by Tinwheeler

Thanks, WN, but that's all a bit much for Saturday evening entertainment😄  Like you, I won’t be affected by it anyway.

Posted on 27/03/2021 20:26

Us neither. You have to read the whole section to get the full picture. If a campsite offers private bathrooms, used by only one family or a linked household Ok, but not for general use by public.  

Tinwheeler replied on 27/03/2021 20:35

Posted on 27/03/2021 20:26 by Takethedogalong

Us neither. You have to read the whole section to get the full picture. If a campsite offers private bathrooms, used by only one family or a linked household Ok, but not for general use by public.  

Posted on 27/03/2021 20:35

I think that's one Sir Humphrey would have been proud of. 😀

Jamsdad replied on 27/03/2021 20:39

Posted on 27/03/2021 20:39

PLEASE SEE

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2021/364/pdfs/uksi_20210364_en.pdf

I have just been reading the text of the new Coronovirus legislation passed by Parliament on 22 March.

Schedule 2 relates to arrangements in Stage 2 i.e on and after 12 April.

Paragraph 12 relates to holiday accommodation, and sub paragraph 5 relates specifically to caravan sites.

This is what it says: " Holiday Accommodation referred to in subparagraph 1 may continue to be provided a) in a campsite or caravan park, provided the only shared facilities used by guests at the campsite or caravan park are washing facilities, toilets, water points, and waste disposal points...

So the LAW clearly states that toilet blocks can be open.

 

I hope CMHC management have read this!!

Jamsdad replied on 27/03/2021 20:42

Posted on 27/03/2021 20:42

Sub paragraoh 6 does not apply to caravan sites so you are mistaken. Sub paragraph 5 is the one that apples to caravan sites.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 27/03/2021 21:43

Posted on 27/03/2021 20:42 by Jamsdad

Sub paragraoh 6 does not apply to caravan sites so you are mistaken. Sub paragraph 5 is the one that apples to caravan sites.

Posted on 27/03/2021 21:43

I don’t think .gov make decisions for C&MC jonsdad🤷🏻‍♂️

Jamsdad replied on 27/03/2021 23:45

Posted on 27/03/2021 23:45

Maybe, but HMG does define what is and is not legal. and it wiil be legal to open toilet blocks from 12 April.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 28/03/2021 08:23

Posted on 27/03/2021 23:45 by Jamsdad

Maybe, but HMG does define what is and is not legal. and it wiil be legal to open toilet blocks from 12 April.

Posted on 28/03/2021 08:23

It will then be down to C&MC to make the final decision. I remember the Govt thinking it was a spiffing idea to originally tell folk Christmas could be 5 day celebration then change it to 1-as if🤷🏻‍♂️. Your faith in .gov is both admirable & misplaced. You will find out soon, stress not👍🏻

brue replied on 28/03/2021 08:37

Posted on 28/03/2021 08:37

The details aren't at all clear and I can see why clarification has been sought by both clubs. I presume this is why other private  sites are also not opening shared facilities except water and disposal points until May 16th.

Thanks for providing the links and details. smile

Wherenext replied on 28/03/2021 10:25

Posted on 28/03/2021 10:25

The only thing I have been able to find for Wales, at the moment, is the following extract of a Councils instructions they say have been passed to them from the Wales Assembly.

I'm still delving into Wales legislation, wish me luck as I may be some time.

The extract does seem to leave no room for doubt that shower blocks and toilets should be kept closed.

From 27 March, self-contained holiday accommodation will be able to re-open to members of the same household or support bubble within Wales. 

Self-contained accommodation includes:

Hotels and other serviced accommodation (e.g. B&Bs, hostels, etc.) that do provide en-suite rooms and can provide room service meals.
Other accommodation that is entirely self-contained (e.g. self-catering cottages, apartments, etc.)
Glamping or any other accommodation with ensuite shower/bath, WC and kitchen facilities
Holiday caravans, touring caravans (including seasonal), motorhomes and campervans where they have their own on-board shower, WC and kitchen facilities
Caravan & touring sites will need to ensure the strict application of industry guidance on shared waste disposal and water points.

All shared facilities, aside from water and disposal points, will remain closed including toilets, shower blocks, laundry, nightclubs, swimming pools

Bars, restaurants and cafes can operate a take-away service only.

For the next two weeks, travelling in and out of Wales for leisure purposes is still not possible, therefore holiday providers are urged not to take bookings from outside Wales until 12 April at the earliest. 

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