Amenity blocks closed until 17th May

NutsyH replied on 09/03/2021 17:17

Posted on 09/03/2021 17:17

Anyone realised this. I just don't get it. Why can pubs open their shared toilets for outdoor diners / drinkers,  motorway services shared toilets never been closed, but caravan & camping sites can open 12th April but can't open their amenities until 17th May. And I would bet that most site toilets are far more hygienic and cleaned more often than pubs and motorway services. Bonkers.

Moderator Comment - I think this thread has run its course now. When the off topic posts outnumber the on topic ones it is time to close. 

JVB66 replied on 28/03/2021 10:26

Posted on 27/03/2021 20:39 by Jamsdad

PLEASE SEE

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2021/364/pdfs/uksi_20210364_en.pdf

I have just been reading the text of the new Coronovirus legislation passed by Parliament on 22 March.

Schedule 2 relates to arrangements in Stage 2 i.e on and after 12 April.

Paragraph 12 relates to holiday accommodation, and sub paragraph 5 relates specifically to caravan sites.

This is what it says: " Holiday Accommodation referred to in subparagraph 1 may continue to be provided a) in a campsite or caravan park, provided the only shared facilities used by guests at the campsite or caravan park are washing facilities, toilets, water points, and waste disposal points...

So the LAW clearly states that toilet blocks can be open.

 

I hope CMHC management have read this!!

Posted on 28/03/2021 10:26

I and my OH have both "pondered" over the content of what has  been posted and although "difficult" to work through ,we have come to the conclusion that a campsite can open facilities if they are seperate and are to only to be used by be used by a "bubble" of family or close family? but not if that is not the case  ,as they would be classed as shared public facilities which will be allowed from 17th May?

Our take on it , as it seems both clubs at present , facilities can be open for those stayng on site and visitors to those staying on site if they are the only ones using such ,ie pods on some sites that are for the sole use of that pitch occupier

Para 5 as you quote, is then clarified in Para 6

 

 

DEBSC replied on 28/03/2021 10:57

Posted on 28/03/2021 10:57

I admit I haven't read this legislation- years of having to interpret legislation at work has left me averse to do so now. However, the large touring site where our static van is has said that their governing body has advised them they cannot open the facilities on the 12th April. So all tourers must use their own facilities.Also a local site here has said no facilities can be opened then. I can't imagine they have all interpreted the rules wrongly.

Tinwheeler replied on 28/03/2021 11:14

Posted on 28/03/2021 11:14

At the end of the day, irrespective of which interpretation of the legislation is correct, if a site owner chooses not to open facility blocks, that's the end of it. 

Along with the clubs, many commercial and privately owned sites have stated they are not opening facility blocks and I can't say I blame them as they have insurance issues to consider as well as legislation.

Takethedogalong replied on 28/03/2021 11:28

Posted on 28/03/2021 11:28

It’s not an easy read, such documents seldom are, but it’s for the safety of the majority. I am sorry for those who might have to wait a little longer for Club Site facilities to open, but sure at some point it will happen. At least we know the Club is sensitive to the requirements of its Members, and will do its best to accommodate as many as possible, as it did last year. 

Private sites, and CLs will probably do as last year, make their own minds up as to what best suits their circumstances. We toured last year and things were mixed, Club facilities open with controls, other places were use onboard facilities only, some Sites chose not to open at all. We shall have to wait and see what this year brings around the country, but we are following that old Scout motto “be prepared”👍

Takethedogalong replied on 28/03/2021 11:48

Posted on 28/03/2021 11:48

I am guessing they are JV, providing a service for essential workers.

But it’s not a good comparison, the usage isn’t likely to be as great as on a camp site, and motorway service stations have dedicated cleaners whose sole role is to clean all day long in one capacity or another, probably on an extremely low wage. HGV drivers don’t usually have showers in their trucks either as an alternative, and it’s possibly an essential service to keep them focussed, awake and fresh. 

JVB66 replied on 28/03/2021 17:34

Posted on 27/03/2021 19:46 by JVB66

I  have sent an Email to "my friend?" asking for clarification after the now closed thread from Jamsdad,surprised  i may get a reply?undecided

Not until Monday?

Posted on 28/03/2021 17:34

I have just recieved a reply from "my friend" and he seem to think the document issued on 22nd is just a "hard copy" of what is part of the  roadmap out of this lockdown ,he has spoken to "someone" but will advise me if there is anything new? but does not expect it has changed ,from first implimented

brue replied on 28/03/2021 18:29

Posted on 28/03/2021 18:29

It must infuriate the leisure industry when the contents of  a government document is written so badly, what happened to the campaign for "Plain English?!" My reading of it, after several attempts, is no shared facilities for anyone unless it's for the sole use of a family group or "bubble."

I wonder who is right on the this one? undecided

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