C&CC closing sites

It would have been much clearer if you’d made that point earlier instead of injecting all that excitement into your posts.

However, nobody is in indentured servitude. Wardens take the job because it suits them and their pay and conditions are protected by law. No doubt the hobby job, as you call it, aspect dates back to thoughts of how things were in years gone by. I suspect the site staff wouldn't be too happy to be thought of as anything less than professional but I realise you will be rather out of touch with the way staff and sites operate these days because, as you said, you don’t use the sites.

Do many wardens of Club sites go on to own or rent sites, and run them as their own business?   

I met several people who ran CS and CLs and grew  that small business into bigger sites of their own,  but I never came across a warden from a Club site with either Club who did that.

If there are any former wardens out there who went on to run sites of their own please tell us about the business model and the way you staffed and managed the new site. 

In reply to previous posts. The uk does offer big sites with the all singing dancing set ups so I'm surprised that anyone who likes that type of holiday uses club sites and expects the same, they won't find it. The recruitment adverts explain who this may suit plus the flexibility and team work needed. It looks like this year the effects of unpredictable Covid closures etc. has dented people's confidence in taking up this type of work.

From the many wardens I've talked to down the years they have had full time, often professional other jobs, and caravanned (or Mhed) while having that job then took early retirement in their fifties (often with sometimes a sizable package) and decided to take on being a warden. 

Covid is never going away, neither is the impact of Brexit - add in the rising cost of air travel, and the era of cheap mass market overseas holidays is drawing to a close.

the U.K. holiday industry can adapt or die. Too much of the industry is not geared to the return of couples and families with better expectations, and is far too parochial and amateur. ‘It was good enough for me as a child in 1970’ doesn’t cut it. The camping industry intoto needs to seriously raise its game.

At a minimum, I expect good toilet facilities, a shop and bar/eatery on site.

CL’s? I’ve always found the idea of roughing it in a field with little more than just a stand pipe and being charged for the ‘privilege’ a very curious concept indeed.

Are you really that out of touch, Harry, or is this all a big wind up? 

In my years of using club sites, there are many highly skilled men women from all walks of life, 890 who have because it seems modern work practices.  they have taken early retirement, and looked at employment with both clubs,,  as they have the misconceptions  of the job,  not so much now as they do work experience on sites ,which may also.be part of the low recruitment uptake,,, 

In past years it was normally june/july that quite a few of the new intake ,realised the job  was not as they thought when looking at it from the outside and resigned,

Another problem that both clubs seem to have is when on the bigger sites six/eight people.,from different backgrounds and employment positions are put together, with the expectation that every one will get on

good toilet facilities, a shop and bar/eatery on site.

Well, I, and possibly quite a few others, DO NOT.

I have excellent toilet facilities without having to dress and go outside. I am organised enough not to need a shop on the site. A beauty of my holiday is being away from bars (and probably eatery as well, whatever that is).

If I wanted such surrounding, I would apply to Billy Butin and his compatriots for accomodation.

"CL’s? I’ve always found the idea of roughing it in a field with little more than just a stand pipe and being charged for the ‘privilege’ a very curious concept indeed."

Purely out of interest, when did you last actually use a CL which was as you describe, Harry?