Nunnykirk club site

JohnG replied on 05/09/2019 19:24

Posted on 05/09/2019 19:24

We have had a seasonal pitch at Nunnykirk for several years now and love it. 

We've just received our September magazine with the application form for 2020 seasonal. When I looked at it with the intention of applying for next year I found Nunnykirk missing. I assumed it was possibly a printing error and phoned the club. 

I was told they'd already had several calls on this topic but he could only tell me that the regional manager had decided not to allow seasonal pitches on site for next year. 

To me this is a very strange decision. Nunnykirk has 75 pitches and about 30 of these are seasonal. If you remove the seasonal pitches then quite a lot of the time you will be lucky to have a dozen units on site. 

The club is losing roughly £31,000 by removing the seasonal pitches. It doesn't make economic sense to me and I wonder if the club is ultimately looking to close Nunnykirk  

replied on 13/09/2019 08:50

Posted on 13/09/2019 08:50

cc sites generally already have barriers, automated from the office or by entry/exit key fob, not a huge step (investment) to move to a pay for a card system and allow paying members to come and go as they please.

I can't recall a single CC non facility with automated barrier BB and you have not visited any. 

brue replied on 13/09/2019 09:33

Posted on 12/09/2019 20:28 by Takethedogalong

I just find it sad that a site so different as Nunnykirk is at such risk. Beloved indeed by a small minority, but certainly in our experience it is a quite diverse make up of the membership. certainly we saw families, solo's, couples, new vans, very old vans, camper vans and brand spanking new MHs. 

Personally. I think the Club has made its mind up it will go. Profit margins come first, and if it isn't hitting its targets then bye bye. I hardly think it's well marketed, and the increase in price mentioned, if correct, is another nail in its coffin.

Annoying that it a member who has brought this out into the open, Its no wonder so much speculation goes on within the forum. frown

Posted on 13/09/2019 09:33

I agree with your comments TDA and there are are other leasehold sites out there where facilities are in need of TLC. Maybe Nunnykirk is the one presenting the most challenging problems if it's under used. Increasing the prices doesn't offer an incentive to potential customers and less intake could justify closure. frown

EmilysDad replied on 13/09/2019 09:36

Posted on 12/09/2019 20:03 by DavidKlyne

MM

At every opportunity you share your dislike for hardstanding pitches. That is fine but I believe you are part of a  relatively small minority of Club members who feel the same. For sites to thrive they have to appeal to a broad spectrum of Club members, many of those want hardstandings and probably wouldn't go to a site with just grass pitches other than in the summer when there is a fair chance they might be dry. 

Posted on 13/09/2019 09:36

I do & make no apologies for stating so. Various club sites have gravel pitches that have merged together to form a huge 4/5/6 pitch area of the stuff ..... who can look at that & prefer its look to that of a large grassed area. Perhaps if there weren't as many hard standings and the pitches weren't crammed in as they are,  there'd be more opportunity to juggle pegs about a bit to even out wear on the remaining grass pitches.

young thomas replied on 13/09/2019 10:00

Posted on 13/09/2019 08:50 by

cc sites generally already have barriers, automated from the office or by entry/exit key fob, not a huge step (investment) to move to a pay for a card system and allow paying members to come and go as they please.

I can't recall a single CC non facility with automated barrier BB and you have not visited any. 

Posted on 13/09/2019 10:00

I said 'cc sites generally'....and the ones that I have used (AFAICR) have barrier systems....easy to replicate at the sites that don't currently have them.

eg, Slinfold has a large opening gate..can be a supplementary barrier during the opening period and close the gates in the off season.

it really isn't that difficult to manage if costs are an issue and the desire to keep trading is there.

Cornersteady replied on 13/09/2019 10:17

Posted on 13/09/2019 10:00 by young thomas

I said 'cc sites generally'....and the ones that I have used (AFAICR) have barrier systems....easy to replicate at the sites that don't currently have them.

eg, Slinfold has a large opening gate..can be a supplementary barrier during the opening period and close the gates in the off season.

it really isn't that difficult to manage if costs are an issue and the desire to keep trading is there.

Posted on 13/09/2019 10:17

it would be a significant cost, each members' card would have to be machine readable (bit like your debit card) even if it costs £1 per card?

Cornersteady replied on 13/09/2019 10:25

Posted on 13/09/2019 09:36 by EmilysDad

I do & make no apologies for stating so. Various club sites have gravel pitches that have merged together to form a huge 4/5/6 pitch area of the stuff ..... who can look at that & prefer its look to that of a large grassed area. Perhaps if there weren't as many hard standings and the pitches weren't crammed in as they are,  there'd be more opportunity to juggle pegs about a bit to even out wear on the remaining grass pitches.

Posted on 13/09/2019 10:25

who can look at that & prefer its look to that of a large grassed area.

I can very easily. And it would appear many thousands as well. You are entitled to your opinion  but just don't make it apply to everyone or even think it applies to everyone, what hubrisundecided

who can look on this and think it's better than a hard standing I mean look at that lovely gouged out tyre track, that pitch will soon be out of use and losing money.

Cornersteady replied on 13/09/2019 10:49

Posted on 13/09/2019 10:17 by Cornersteady

it would be a significant cost, each members' card would have to be machine readable (bit like your debit card) even if it costs £1 per card?

Posted on 13/09/2019 10:49

post edit, each card costs about £2.50, how many membership cards are there out there? Each member usually has two cards? 250,000 members...

Then the cost of getting them ready, then wouldn't it decease security on any site as any card would have access to all club sites? At the moment who goes on site is strictly controlled, or it is on the sites I go to.

So all this cost to save one site?

Wildwood replied on 13/09/2019 10:59

Posted on 13/09/2019 10:59

According to a warden I spoke to, sites without a barrier are normally managed by a single couple who work only part of the day. If the wardens were not on duty new arrivals could not get in which is not feasible. On sites with a barrier and only two wardens they work all day seven days a week and get rest period when a relief warden comes in.

EmilysDad replied on 13/09/2019 11:05

Posted on 13/09/2019 10:25 by Cornersteady

who can look at that & prefer its look to that of a large grassed area.

I can very easily. And it would appear many thousands as well. You are entitled to your opinion  but just don't make it apply to everyone or even think it applies to everyone, what hubrisundecided

who can look on this and think it's better than a hard standing I mean look at that lovely gouged out tyre track, that pitch will soon be out of use and losing money.

Posted on 13/09/2019 11:05

but just don't make it apply to everyone or even think it applies to everyone

 

likewise with your hardstandings ..... and as posted , if club pitches weren't packed in as they are, there'd be the option of shifting the peg a few feet to allow the previous awning area of grass to be under the caravan.

The CL we stayed on recently had a an area where there's obviously been a ground sheet (not as obvious as the picture you conveniently found) but as there were no pegs we pitched away from it.

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