Nunnykirk club site

We used Nunnykirk three times last year, and two the year before. Not everyone wants to pay big money and have every convenience you can think of when touring. If it goes it will be a very sad loss to us. But then so was Much Wenlock, so might Bromyard Downs if/when that goes. 

I made that comment in the context of losing all non facility sites which was what was implied. Pleased to read JVB's post about Bourton especially as it is unlikely to be upgraded.

FYI JVB on the Continent on unmanned sites, either a warden turns up once a day, usually in the early evening to collect daily payment or if it is unmanned there is usually a number to call for emergencies or enquiries.

peedee

I made that comment in the context of losing all non facility sites which was what was implied. Pleased to read JVB's post about Bourton especially as it is unlikely to be upgraded.

FYI JVB on the Continent on unmanned sites, either a warden turns up once a day, usually in the early evening to collect daily payment or if it is unmanned there is usually a number to call for emergencies or enquiries.

peedee

"There is not much evidence to support the idea of keeping it open I would suggest. Falling occupancy, hand to hand lease arrangements, no facilities and in the middle of nowhere! It would seem this sort of site has a pretty limited appeal to the majority of Club members?"

makes you wonder why anyone would put a campsite there in the first place....

some folk like 'in the middle of nowhere' (Dusty Springfield) which is usually on the way to 'somewhere'

"And members tend to use cc non facility sites as they appreciate cc staff being arround most of the time,"

..but when income is static and margins are tight, this is exacly where some unnecessary cost is going on this type of site....as I showed earlier, a bollard, a barrier and a waste borne can dispense with a warden couple....thays a fair slug of cash every year.

i also note tha Clachan, Slinfold and Aberbran are to remain a £15 p.n for the rest of the year and throughout 2020. Sounds like Nunnykirk's landlord has put the rent up?

peedee

MM

For sites to thrive they have to appeal to a broad spectrum of Club members, many of those want hardstandings and probably wouldn't go to a site with just grass pitches other than in the summer when there is a fair chance they might be dry. 

I just find it sad that a site so different as Nunnykirk is at such risk. Beloved indeed by a small minority, but certainly in our experience it is a quite diverse make up of the membership. certainly we saw families, solo's, couples, new vans, very old vans, camper vans and brand spanking new MHs. 

Personally. I think the Club has made its mind up it will go. Profit margins come first, and if it isn't hitting its targets then bye bye. I hardly think it's well marketed, and the increase in price mentioned, if correct, is another nail in its coffin.

Annoying that it a member who has brought this out into the open, Its no wonder so much speculation goes on within the forum. 

I'm another that much prefers grass rather than gravel. In the past few years i've found i've been using CC&C sites more, mainly because of the more informal layout and the presence of a lot more grass.

The loss of Nunnykirk, and other sites like it, would be a detriment to the club in my opinion.

I'm with W and MM....we like grass and don't like gravel, except in really poor conditions (but we usually take ourselves far away in winter time).

we also like the less formal layouts of CCC and increased number of pitch options.....grass, non-EHU etc....and even age concession...hence another reason we use cc sites less.

although we haven't used any CC no FACS sites yet, we did use one CCC site in Sussex(i think) Slindon...very nice and peaceful like a large CL...a totally different (and much nicer IMHO) ambience than a typical cc club site...

i realise that some want to continue the drive towards identikit sites (Lord knows, the gravel and one way road system already goes a long way to doing that) but it seems sad that something a bit different (nicer in a lot of folks opinion) might be allowed to slip away.

CC has a simple formula for generating more cash....put the prices up, which has been mentioned upthread, but it's also possible to reduce cost.

whats tricky is that the typical CC model is already pared down with only the minimum of staff (covering all site tasks) yet it is perfectly possible to run a small site unit without staff...it's done all over Europe on sites/aires where there are no toilets/showers to clean...ie a small no FACS site.

cc sites generally already have barriers, automated from the office or by entry/exit key fob, not a huge step (investment) to move to a pay for a card system and allow paying members to come and go as they please.

it may just be that by eliminating virtually all of the revenue cost from the model these sites could continue to exist as they are but even turn a small profit.

....and then I woke up.....