'Wild camping' in a motorhome or van

Gibbs25 replied on 13/04/2021 19:49

Posted on 13/04/2021 19:49

This morning bright and early we drove 6 miles from home to the top of the Kirkstone Pass in the Lake District. 

At the entrance to the car park there is a nice big sign stating that overnighting is not allowed. There were 6 vans which had clearly been there all night.

On Sunday bright and early we parked at the small car park by the river in Troutbeck. There is a sign forbidding over night stays here too. One van had clearly been there all night.

This behaviour really makes me cross. It's only day 2 of being allowed to stay away from home and already people are treating our area with blatant disrespect - either they can't read (unlikely) or they just do as they like anyway. No wonder motorhomers and campervanners get a bad press.

Please - if you are visiting the Lakes this year either use a campsite or chose a carpark where overnighting is allowed. 

 

Takethedogalong replied on 14/04/2021 16:08

Posted on 14/04/2021 15:33 by LLM

As far as I'm aware the parking areas along the Kirkstone Pass do not have any signs or legal restriction on overnighting.  Perhaps you would care to furnish some photographic evidence.  

Posted on 14/04/2021 16:08

It is illegal to overnight in a vehicle anywhere in LD laybys or roadsides. True wild camping, small tent, is permitted with the express permission of the landowner, and there is a good list of do’s and don’ts about how to do it with little environmental impact. On the plus side, the National Park is working with dozens of farmers to provide extra camping provision (not sure if this includes luxury vans and MHs) to avoid the illegal camping, littering etc... that happened last year. 

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Posted on 14/04/2021 14:37 by brue

This is a general comment, not aimed at anyone or anything. Years ago no-one took much notice of a spot of roadside camping. Sadly laybys and other stop off points are now frequently awash with litter, not just on the ground, it's stuck in the surrounding hedges, trees and verges. Not pleasant places to be in.

And it certainly isn't anything like as safe as it used to be. From our home we can see overnight arrivals at a local beauty spot, their headlights shine like beacons from a local hill. I feel some discomfort that our quiet tranquil spots are invaded and I look at headlights not stars, our wild life is disturbed, they don't get much peace when the day trippers have gone home.

I've recently seen yellow notices going up "take pride in Britain and don't drop litter" or some such phrase. I suppose everyone who stops comes under suspicion, are they the litterers and dumpers? So called "wild campers" are making it harder for the rest of us and to my mind they are spoiling some very tranquil spots, treating them as 24 hour car parks not special places to let nature have time to recover.

So yes, I think it's important that no overnight camping rules are obeyed.

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Takethedogalong replied on 14/04/2021 16:16

Posted on 14/04/2021 16:16

I think you are both right, we were a filthy nation back in the 1950’s, and not that much better now....☹️ 

Cornersteady replied on 14/04/2021 16:17

Posted on 14/04/2021 16:07 by moulesy

If it's the large(ish) parking area opposite the Inn, I'm pretty sure there was such a sign there last time we went. The other, smaller areas along that road maybe not. Perfectly prepared to be proved wrong though! 

Posted on 14/04/2021 16:17

yes there was last August at least

JVB66 replied on 14/04/2021 16:27

Posted on 14/04/2021 16:16 by Takethedogalong

I think you are both right, we were a filthy nation back in the 1950’s, and not that much better now....☹️ 

Posted on 14/04/2021 16:27

Back in the 50s the litter left was as bad as some areas now ,the diference being it was normally"bio degradable" as against the prolific use of plastic and takeaways  these days, plus we now have a "throw away" society and a much bigger populaton to do it,

LLM replied on 14/04/2021 16:51

Posted on 14/04/2021 14:55 by SteveL

So the Club is actually part of the issue, rather than a solution. It needs to recognise the need for basic, short stay stops, including caravans as well. The no facility Sites, many now long gone met this perfectly. But the Club is throwing its Site developments around caravans and MHs used like caravans. Long stays with prices to match.

I can’t agree with the above. Surely the club is there to provide what the majority of members want and that isn’t basic sites in my opinion. You have only got to look at how difficult it is to get a service pitch, even at the extra premium. At least the CAMC allows one night stops, on our planned tour in May we have several. Some do indeed stay for weeks, most of our stays are between 1 and 3 days. Although we still occasionally stop for a week at sites like Hawes.

Posted on 14/04/2021 16:51

Surely your club should cater for all members equally.  I know we have racism, sexism, and a thousand other ism's so what is the new ism called? undecided

Rufs replied on 14/04/2021 17:06

Posted on 14/04/2021 17:06

"Many motorhomers over there even shun the plentiful official Aires across France and choose to stay as and where they wish - in the sand dunes at the Pointe de Trevignon, in the parking area at Monet's garden at Giverny, on most headlands across Brittany, in the long lay by beyond the zoo at La Palmyre - the list is endless."

cannot comment on France but this happens (happened) a lot in Spain  i say happened because the authorities are clamping down on it, and why, because of all the disgusting things that used to take place in sand dunes, on beaches hedgerows etc  

"Local authorities in the UK must make those same decisions if they see it as a problem for them. It's up to them."

and our LA has done just that, at great expense to the local tax payer, height barriers have been installed, wooden stakes set in concrete on all grass areas/verges, mobile patrols to police the rules, maybe thats is why my local taxes went up by 5% this year undecided

Tinwheeler replied on 14/04/2021 17:09

Posted on 14/04/2021 16:51 by LLM

Surely your club should cater for all members equally.  I know we have racism, sexism, and a thousand other ism's so what is the new ism called? undecided

Posted on 14/04/2021 17:09

I think this club does cater for all members equally.

In terms of sites, it offers the same product equally to all. Those who want a totally different site experience would surely not join. Similarly, I wouldn't join the RAC if I wanted a company specialising in marine recovery.🤷🏻‍♂️

Cornersteady replied on 14/04/2021 17:17

Posted on 14/04/2021 17:09 by Tinwheeler

I think this club does cater for all members equally.

In terms of sites, it offers the same product equally to all. Those who want a totally different site experience would surely not join. Similarly, I wouldn't join the RAC if I wanted a company specialising in marine recovery.🤷🏻‍♂️

Posted on 14/04/2021 17:17

+1

The club offers what it offers. No one is forced to join the club and surely people join the club as it gives them what they want? If it didn't why join on the first place and/or why re-join?

Tinwheeler replied on 14/04/2021 17:26

Posted on 14/04/2021 17:17 by Cornersteady

+1

The club offers what it offers. No one is forced to join the club and surely people join the club as it gives them what they want? If it didn't why join on the first place and/or why re-join?

Posted on 14/04/2021 17:26

.....a lot of new joiners are appearing these days, Corners, so I guess they want precisely what CAMC offers😄

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