Climate Change-The Truth

mickysf replied on 18/04/2019 07:21

Posted on 18/04/2019 07:21

This TV program views tonight and is presented by David Attenborough. A very serious subject by all accounts and possibly one we should all watch. I guess much of that discussed will impact seriously on the future of the pastime we currently and collectively enjoy. 

mickysf replied on 20/04/2019 07:06

Posted on 19/04/2019 22:02 by huskydog

So , are we all going to stop towing our caravans or driving our motorhomes to far flung places ,or jump on an airplane to a far off land ??, of course not ! We were all quite happy to use all these plastic things for years ,and now it seems not PC to be seen using them !

only we can change it ,but it seems we don't want to give up the good life 

Posted on 20/04/2019 07:06

The thing is much of what we can do about it is now being done to and for us whether some like it or not. Take for example the auto motive industry. This now changes and continues to evolve as a result of the issues discussed at an incredible rate. There were those who for possibly selfish reasons and financial gain  said there was no need for change arguing that our continued pollution ways were unimportant but it is happening and that 'happening' is accelerating fast thankfully. 

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replied on 20/04/2019 07:39

Posted on 20/04/2019 07:39

I did not see the program but would ask if it was a rational balanced offering or simply a BBC/Attenborough sensation To attract viewers? 

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I did not see the program but would ask if it was a rational balanced offering or simply a BBC/Attenborough sensation To attract viewers? 

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cyberyacht replied on 20/04/2019 08:02

Posted on 20/04/2019 08:02

Population is one aspect. Consumption is another. How much do we hear about economic growth. If we all stop to think for a moment it becomes abundantly clear that, on a planet with finite resources, continued economic growth is unsustainable. The churn created by constant marketing pressure creates the consumer society that eats up the planet's resources.

mickysf replied on 20/04/2019 08:08

Posted on 20/04/2019 07:37 by

It would appear that the "problem" is us; too many of us. Globally the population is expanding exponentially.  How is the "problem" to be dealt with?

Happy Easter smile

Posted on 20/04/2019 08:08

Of course you are right. There are many interrelated issues and to tackle all at once is daunting and possibly impossible for us as individuals or collectively. But some bits we can. Identify these, act and then progress on to the next. That is what is happening thankfully.

As far as population growth is concerned I can do nothing but I hope for the best but I'm afraid nature may just sort that one out itself. It is not an excuse to just  allow 'destruction' and accelerate those other problems we face. We live in hope.

Happy Easter from me to.  ðŸ™‚

 

DavidKlyne replied on 20/04/2019 09:25

Posted on 20/04/2019 07:37 by

It would appear that the "problem" is us; too many of us. Globally the population is expanding exponentially.  How is the "problem" to be dealt with?

Happy Easter smile

Posted on 20/04/2019 09:25

And here by lies a contradiction. The richer a society the lower the birth rate, the poorer the society the greater the birth rate. This is simply because in poorer societies  they regard larger families as a means of protecting the family unit as there is a likelihood that not all will survive because of limited access to medical facilities. The problem is that in order for societies to become richer it places even more demands of world resources and probably increases the prospect of climate change rather than reducing it.

Navigateur replied on 20/04/2019 12:34

Posted on 20/04/2019 12:34

We human beings are still 99 and a good bit animal.  A type of animal that is rather good at breeding and making comfortable surroundings. For many 100s of years our recent ancestors have been finding cures for disease and damage that are natural deprecators of the numbers.  So lifespan increases. Expected age at death in the western world is now about twice what it was at the start of the revolution - Industrial, that is.

What has also grown as well as population numbers is the perceived right of "Self before Society".  However, I have every confidence that Nature will right the current imbalance. It could be that we suffocate due to a volcanic explosion, or drown in ever increasing sea levels, or starve from lack of any potential food source (apart from ourselves). My curiosity is about whether sufficent numbers of homo sapiens will survive to resume breeding, or will another species of homo evolve to take our place at the top of the food tree?

Cornersteady replied on 20/04/2019 13:25

Posted on 20/04/2019 07:56 by

I have spent much of my working life working with scientist, often the very best in their fields.  In my experience they all have somethings in common.  They have a way of taking a balanced view and a willingness to listen and learn from others.  I watched the programme and felt that what was being presented, mostly by scientists, was not hype but rationally thought through facts.   

PS ET I suggest you watch it if you can.  

Posted on 20/04/2019 13:25

but of course another set of scientists on another programme could present another view?  

true scientists also have one common feature, they never think their theory is right, they will say it fits in with observations or at best they will say it is just not wrong or so far not proven to be wrong -  a totally different thing altogether. Newton found that out. 

Watch the famous Feynman video

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