Climate Change-The Truth

mickysf replied on 18/04/2019 07:21

Posted on 18/04/2019 07:21

This TV program views tonight and is presented by David Attenborough. A very serious subject by all accounts and possibly one we should all watch. I guess much of that discussed will impact seriously on the future of the pastime we currently and collectively enjoy. 

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Posted on 20/04/2019 13:26 by Cornersteady
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Cornersteady replied on 20/04/2019 14:38

Posted on 20/04/2019 14:38

I always remember my old mechanics professor saying

never trust scientists who work in R&D, or paid for by a company, their 'results' are to make money not necessarily get to the answers

brue replied on 20/04/2019 14:46

Posted on 20/04/2019 14:46

Your mechanics professor was wrong to say that Corners, maybe he was miffed that he couldn't extend his research. How do you think you are posting on here, it took years of research and development to produce the enhanced micro systems we have now. But what's that got to do with the OP? undecided

Cornersteady replied on 20/04/2019 14:58

Posted on 20/04/2019 14:46 by brue

Your mechanics professor was wrong to say that Corners, maybe he was miffed that he couldn't extend his research. How do you think you are posting on here, it took years of research and development to produce the enhanced micro systems we have now. But what's that got to do with the OP? undecided

Posted on 20/04/2019 14:58

well I don't agree, whoever pays the piper calls the tune? And no he was a world leader in his field I remember.- fluids.

And you have proved my point, this internet and all the systems that were developed for one thing in mind, was it (as you appear to think perhaps) for the benefit of mankind? or to make money in selling computers, making money from global communications... the list goes on.

Have you been promoted to moderate now? Even so, I didn't bring in the idea that these scientists on this programme were giving a fully balanced view, I am merely giving another view that their theories may not be correct, perhaps they are, but even they (if they are true scientists ) wouldn't say that.

Just because they are on the BBC (were they paid btw by the BBC?, picked by David Attenborough personally?) does not automatically make them correct. yes they may be but keep an open mind Brue.

Justus2 replied on 20/04/2019 15:25

Posted on 20/04/2019 15:25

I thought the programme made some interesting points, and made them well e.g. the trend in rising sea temperature, rising sea levels, global deforestation, increase in CO2 levels etc. The real problem is how to deal with it in order to turn these trends.

We all ( the world ) needs to reduce our reliance on fossil fuels, so for example :

First of all remove your gas boilers and log burners, then :

Hands up who wants to be first to sell their 4x4 and caravan ?

Hands up who wants to be first to sell their Motor-home ?

Who wants to be first to vow never to fly again ?

Who is going to be first to just pop out and buy a Tesla ?

etc etc

or we could, as someone said, make out it's just all hype and fake news....

coolinnocent

 

 

brue replied on 20/04/2019 15:30

Posted on 20/04/2019 15:30

I'm sure scientific and economic research is about development, a continuous process of thought, measurement, calculation, failure and success. Without the ability to input results anywhere ie on computers the speed of communications and outcomes would be back to where it was many years ago. However with climate change groups of people with differing skills have got together to pool their information and research, whether they are correct or not the results are leading to more informed ways of thinking on the subject. 

And no Corners I have not been promoted to moderate and I prefer posts that have a bit of self moderation so that fierce arguments are kept to a minimum and CT remains a friendly place.

Justus2 replied on 20/04/2019 15:40

Posted on 20/04/2019 15:34 by Cornersteady
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Posted on 20/04/2019 15:40

It happened before ? 

Yes, the programme showed changes since the beginning of industrialisation well over 100 years ago. 

What stopped it then ?

Nothing, it continues to get worse.

Who said it was all hype and fake news?

The president of the United States of America.

The programme is still available on BBCiplayer for those who perhaps missed it.

brue replied on 20/04/2019 15:49

Posted on 20/04/2019 15:49

I'm not making further comments about CT Corners, you brought that up and I responded as best I could.

My first thoughts when I saw this thread were about what individuals might be doing to improve things, if they think they needed to or if they felt persuaded to by the information which is out there. Or not.

But the reality is that some things are going to be imposed on us because I guess we can't let go of the things that pollute. So we'll see higher taxes, more restrictions on fuel and various inducements to wean us off our present situation.

 

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