Mole Traps

K9S4EVA replied on 28/09/2021 08:58

Posted on 28/09/2021 08:58

I was disgusted to find out that Caravan Club Policy is to trap and kill moles.

I saw a man setting mole traps along the external and internal perimeter hedge at the entrance to Old Hartley Club Site on Sunday 19 September 2021.

I enquired if he was setting mole traps and he said yes. I asked if that was ethical and humane. He said it was better than seeing mole hills. I said 'is it really?'. He said it was Caravan Club Policy.

As Members surely we have the right to decide whether we'd be happy seeing mole hills, or whether we'd prefer to trap and kill moles, sometimes not immediately killing them and leaving them to suffer.

I wonder why the Wardens can't just remove the erupted earth if it's deemed unsightly?

On top of this, what if a dog dug them up and got injured.  Many terriers and hounds would be very interested in digging where something like a trap has been buried.

Moles are not the enemy, they aerate soil and eat pests...see link below:

https://www.rspca.org.uk/documents/1494935/9042554/Living+with+-+moles+-+formatted+%28V1.2%29+-+2017.pdf/61a0a5f6-b28e-c46e-042d-5b8fecf54207?t=1553171460360&download=true

I would like to see Members being given the opportunity to vote on such cruel practices and whether they feel their Club should continue with them.

In my opinion, if people think natural occurrences like mole hills are unsightly they should question why they want to go caravanning - isn't it getting out into nature, not being in pristine, bowling green like sites?

I'd be interested to hear other people's views on the subject.

Takethedogalong replied on 29/09/2021 11:28

Posted on 29/09/2021 11:28

Prevention can be better than cure as well. Moles don’t like daffodils, so get lots of bulbs, plant inside and out Old Hartley, and eventually it could be a win win. Pretty Spring flowers for residents and visitors, the moles will go, and then the only ones who might break a leg will be those who venture to pick the daffodils.😉

Our big park is full of Daffs, growing in all areas. No moles though, they are never evidenced.

scoutman replied on 29/09/2021 11:47

Posted on 29/09/2021 11:47

A few solar powered sonic devices work well on my allotment ( not much fun seeing your runner beans seeds disappear down into mole runs). I can't hear the sonic waves. There again we could always employ the Jasper Carrot method of mole eradication ( you have to be of a certain age to remember that sketch).

brue replied on 29/09/2021 12:12

Posted on 29/09/2021 12:12

The RSPCA have a produced a good PDF article "Living with Moles." 

Sonic emissions are very unpleasant for those that can hear high frequency noises.

replied on 29/09/2021 12:30

Posted on 29/09/2021 12:30

JVB66 replied on 29/09/2021 13:15

Posted on 29/09/2021 12:12 by brue

The RSPCA have a produced a good PDF article "Living with Moles." 

Sonic emissions are very unpleasant for those that can hear high frequency noises.

Posted on 29/09/2021 13:15

We had a sonic cat scarer ,which was really unpleasant for our grandchildren so we had to stop using it when they were at our house

viatorem replied on 29/09/2021 13:41

Posted on 29/09/2021 09:02 by Rocky 2 buckets

The problem with Humans is-they take over every habitat they want, they displace other species-label them vermin or at epidemic proportions then destroy them. Why should any creature that lives it’s short life the way evolution designed it be killed because it annoys or gets in the way of Humans🤷🏻‍♂️. Deer if left alone will even out due to food resources, don’t drive Animals to extinction because they don’t fit in the box we designed for them☹️

Posted on 29/09/2021 13:41

Agreed. Some time in the future something will evolve that limits human population growth, probably microbial. Maybe the bats or pangolins whatever have sent us a warning shot.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 29/09/2021 13:48

Posted on 29/09/2021 13:41 by viatorem

Agreed. Some time in the future something will evolve that limits human population growth, probably microbial. Maybe the bats or pangolins whatever have sent us a warning shot.

Posted on 29/09/2021 13:48

I like your train of thought V👍🏻. I have always thought all the ‘anti natural world’ types would be held responsible in the next life. . .Yup I’m a dreamer😊

replied on 29/09/2021 14:08

Posted on 29/09/2021 14:08

The only creatures that I have deliberately killed have been trout, mackerel, flounder, eel, prawn and sea bass. I exclude baitsmile

Probably killed some whitefly etc also. 

I did despatch a cat with a single blow of an extended wheel spanner to end its suffering after I had run it over.

Takethedogalong replied on 29/09/2021 14:31

Posted on 29/09/2021 13:48 by Rocky 2 buckets

I like your train of thought V👍🏻. I have always thought all the ‘anti natural world’ types would be held responsible in the next life. . .Yup I’m a dreamer😊

Posted on 29/09/2021 14:31

I am currently reading a book about the Peasants Revolt 1381. It looks at what happened earlier in the Century for background, ie numerous bouts of The Black Death, a few other things such as the end of serfdom and the feudal system. It changed the World profoundly, having wiped out millions of those who did most of the work, along with a few more of the big decision makers as well. The parallels with what is happening at the moment are quite stark, however, human beings are now so clever, so scientifically aware that the current pandemic hasn’t had anything like the effect the Black Death did. You do tend to wonder just where Man’s efforts will lead the planet ultimately. It can only get worse to be honest for other creatures and nature. Won’t be in my lifetime,  but I fear a Soylent Green world for future generations at some point. 

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