Mole Traps

K9S4EVA replied on 28/09/2021 08:58

Posted on 28/09/2021 08:58

I was disgusted to find out that Caravan Club Policy is to trap and kill moles.

I saw a man setting mole traps along the external and internal perimeter hedge at the entrance to Old Hartley Club Site on Sunday 19 September 2021.

I enquired if he was setting mole traps and he said yes. I asked if that was ethical and humane. He said it was better than seeing mole hills. I said 'is it really?'. He said it was Caravan Club Policy.

As Members surely we have the right to decide whether we'd be happy seeing mole hills, or whether we'd prefer to trap and kill moles, sometimes not immediately killing them and leaving them to suffer.

I wonder why the Wardens can't just remove the erupted earth if it's deemed unsightly?

On top of this, what if a dog dug them up and got injured.  Many terriers and hounds would be very interested in digging where something like a trap has been buried.

Moles are not the enemy, they aerate soil and eat pests...see link below:

https://www.rspca.org.uk/documents/1494935/9042554/Living+with+-+moles+-+formatted+%28V1.2%29+-+2017.pdf/61a0a5f6-b28e-c46e-042d-5b8fecf54207?t=1553171460360&download=true

I would like to see Members being given the opportunity to vote on such cruel practices and whether they feel their Club should continue with them.

In my opinion, if people think natural occurrences like mole hills are unsightly they should question why they want to go caravanning - isn't it getting out into nature, not being in pristine, bowling green like sites?

I'd be interested to hear other people's views on the subject.

replied on 28/09/2021 13:27

Posted on 28/09/2021 11:50 by JVB66

Going down the route of speed humps, my OH now needs a mobility scooter for any thing more than short distances ,and have found that her boot scooter grounds on most club speed humps ,and when speeking to othe users of the same type of scooter they have had the same problem ,but none had thought about speaking to site staff or contacting the club ,not that i have had any sort of reply apart the auto reply 

 

Posted on 28/09/2021 13:27

It is ridiculous JVB as the humps can be easily sited where there is space for less able to have room to avoid 

K9S4EVA replied on 28/09/2021 13:31

Posted on 28/09/2021 13:31

Yes, David thank you, I have contacted them direct, and will await the facts. 

I'm sure you meant no offence but I did find your wording 'Its all very well being sentimental about these little creatures...' unnecessary and rather patronising.  It was the kind of derogatory response I was afraid of receiving, and would have expected more from a Moderator.

If you look at the photograph I uploaded you will see the area in question is at the entrance to the site and would be unlikely to cause a subsidence issue, but I will await the official response on this.

 

 

JVB66 replied on 28/09/2021 13:39

Posted on 28/09/2021 13:27 by

It is ridiculous JVB as the humps can be easily sited where there is space for less able to have room to avoid 

Posted on 28/09/2021 13:39

 have spoken to site staff on sites that the speed humps are the full width of the roads,and suggested it just needs one panel ,removing to give space at one end to enable mobility scooters to get past and it would not ,reduce the effectiveness for what they are there for ,but as all have said ,they have been installed as per instructions from EGHfrown,

When contacting EGH via email ,and a comment/suggestion is given they do say because of the amount of emails we recieve we cannot reply to them all? what a get out to ro not to reply to anything that may be a bit controversial or beyond any stock reply/excuse they may haveundecided

K9S4EVA replied on 28/09/2021 13:58

Posted on 28/09/2021 13:58

Yes, it's an easy 'get out' isn't it JVB66 and is also the reason I've not written to the magazine because I am pretty sure my letter would not be published.

 

JollyKernow replied on 28/09/2021 14:38

Posted on 28/09/2021 14:38

Good Afternoon

Firstly, it is not club policy to trap moles at all. The guy that said that was telling porkies. I work in the south west and there is no trapping of moles on the sites down here. I can only see the need if as a result of mole action there's a chance of subsidence causing a hazard. There's really no need to destroy any kinds of wildlife on site. When we worked at Godrevy we were plagued with rabbits. Part of the daily routine was filling in holes, you just got on with it, all part of being in the countryside. We closed the site here yesterday and we had the muntjac deer grazing last night, lovely creatures.

I spend quite a while in the spring shoveling up mole hills, makes good soil for the summer planters!

To the OP, send your email to enquiries@camc.com and title it "complaint". That will go to the relevant person a bit quicker.

JK

K9S4EVA replied on 28/09/2021 15:25

Posted on 28/09/2021 15:25

Thank you JK - really helpful information.  I will send an email via the address you have suggested.  Your help very much appreciated.

Takethedogalong replied on 28/09/2021 17:08

Posted on 28/09/2021 17:08

Any gardener knows that the soil heaps left by moles are like gold dust. Perfect for sowing seeds. When I worked as a volunteer for EH, we used to collect it to use later for seed trays.

I hate seeing wildlife killed for no good reason. I see a rare White Fallow Deer has been shot dead on outskirts of Liverpool. RSPCA advised, but Police took the easier option. ☹️

Exeter Racecourse regularly has signs up warning visitors about the deer culling. It’s called “wildlife management”, to sanitise the process. Nothing to do with Club, Racecourse policy. 

 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 28/09/2021 18:05

Posted on 28/09/2021 17:08 by Takethedogalong

Any gardener knows that the soil heaps left by moles are like gold dust. Perfect for sowing seeds. When I worked as a volunteer for EH, we used to collect it to use later for seed trays.

I hate seeing wildlife killed for no good reason. I see a rare White Fallow Deer has been shot dead on outskirts of Liverpool. RSPCA advised, but Police took the easier option. ☹️

Exeter Racecourse regularly has signs up warning visitors about the deer culling. It’s called “wildlife management”, to sanitise the process. Nothing to do with Club, Racecourse policy. 

 

Posted on 28/09/2021 18:05

+1👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Some humans are quite disgusting☹️

JollyKernow replied on 28/09/2021 18:12

Posted on 28/09/2021 17:08 by Takethedogalong

Any gardener knows that the soil heaps left by moles are like gold dust. Perfect for sowing seeds. When I worked as a volunteer for EH, we used to collect it to use later for seed trays.

I hate seeing wildlife killed for no good reason. I see a rare White Fallow Deer has been shot dead on outskirts of Liverpool. RSPCA advised, but Police took the easier option. ☹️

Exeter Racecourse regularly has signs up warning visitors about the deer culling. It’s called “wildlife management”, to sanitise the process. Nothing to do with Club, Racecourse policy. 

 

Posted on 28/09/2021 18:12

Evening

The deer cull didn't used to go down too well with the hippy convoy down the road ttda. Fun to watch their "protests"wink

I often used to see herds of 30+ deer grazing at the bottom part of the course in the evenings, usually with the big majestic stag at the front, so nice to observe. I guess the racecourse manage their grass with horses in mind not other animals.

JK

Takethedogalong replied on 28/09/2021 18:14

Posted on 28/09/2021 18:14

When I was at PE college, the Estate were always putting mole traps in around the playing fields. We caught them gassing as well, which didn’t go down well with the students, there was quite a ruckus at the time. We all got our own back when the local hunt met in front of the big house, that got all 400 of us banned from local village pubs..........until the profits plummeted, they u turned on that one pretty sharpish😂

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