Mole Traps

Oh yes JK, we know the “crusty camp” well. In fact, we slept through one of their raves, it was the blasted police helicopter that woke us up😂 I think it was the same night the invaders arrived, all they got was a useless PC next morning. 

This was Calke Abbey last week. Red Deer, they have Fallow as well. And Moles👍

Why do the wardens think the only way to get rid of the moles is to kill them?

They could quite easily use Sonic Wave Deterrents, solar powered. These drive the moles out of the area. Not that expensive either.

The act of killing these creatures is barbaric. Hope the OP gets a satisfactory response.

I will post the reply here as soon as I receive it so you can all see.

If you've got good hearing sonic devices are unpleasant. 

One thing about Old Hartley and the cliffs is a rat problem which reduces cliff nesting birds. There is always a balance to be struck in these areas. Cliff erosion is also ongoing and stability is an issue.

The problem with Humans is-they take over every habitat they want, they displace other species-label them vermin or at epidemic proportions then destroy them. Why should any creature that lives it’s short life the way evolution designed it be killed because it annoys or gets in the way of Humans🤷🏻‍♂️. Deer if left alone will even out due to food resources, don’t drive Animals to extinction because they don’t fit in the box we designed for them☹️

 Morning

WN, there's nowhere in this thread that states wardens were killing moles. The op said he saw a man setting traps. In my opinion that would be a contractor as all staff are not allowed to use any equipment we haven't been signed off to use. Mole traps won't be in the tool inventory! Don't tar us all with the same brush eh? Read my posts above

JK

I wouldn't think the mole catcher just arrived on site to catch moles without expecting payment, therefore he was employed by someone to catch them. The most likely way someone at EGH would know there was a mole problem would be if the wardens informed them!

 I could order a hitman to kill my wife but I would be as guilty as the hitman.

You are right  and as it proves in so many areas , threads are to be read!! rather just surmise what you think has been posted,

Who ordered the mole catcher?  

The grass area outside the Old Hartley site (we are frequent visitors) is used by the general public for walking and parking. We went to the aid of a lady who fell over as she got out of her car in that area, if there are collapsed mole runs etc it does present a problem to the LA or other landowners. Having recently spent three weeks out of action catching my foot in a not very visible rabbit hole on a local footpath alongside a wheatfield it is something that all concerned need to keep an eye on. We have a right of way that we have to check frequently, it is quite a resonsibility even if it's just an accidental incident that occurs. So most landowners, small and large do try to keep safe access going. It doesn't always work out, sometimes there are awful incidents so bear in mind the processes involved and the responsibilities. Not everyone can see well or understand what's under their feet, or even what's looming in the distance!

The grassed area outside the Old Hartley Site is undulating to say the least, so not easy underfoot, but in my opinion it has nothing to do with mole or rabbit holes - it's just a typical non-manicured, natural area of grass.  Working for the Public Sector, with responsibility for some land and buildings I can say with confidence that on our land if someone were to fall down a mole or rabbit hole there would be no course of redress for our authority.  People need to take some responsibility for their own safety and judge whether a certain footpath or area is safe for them to walk on, and within their capability, regardless as to whether they are able bodied, or have disabilities or ailments.

I believe it was an external contractor laying the traps, not the Wardens, but someone must have ordered the work.

It would be fantastic if all Wardens were like JK.  If he is using his ingenuity regarding filling in rabbit holes and using soil from mole hills, rather than it being part of CAMC recommended best practice or training, he should be held up as an example of how sites should be run...enhancing the environment, working with flora and fauna...not working against it, in the pursuit of a 'picture perfect' pristine sight with bowling green type grassed areas.  Well done JK!

Also, just to update you all - I have received a response from CAMC saying they will respond in 20 days as the issue needs investigating.