National Trust Resolution Upcoming

Takethedogalong replied on 30/09/2021 14:05

Takethedogalong

Posted on 30/09/2021 14:05

I know that a lot of Members and Forum users are, like us Members of The National Trust. This October’s Trust AGM includes a Resolution to ban Trail Hunting on National Trust land, and as such I wanted to highlight this issue and bring it to the attention of any Trust Member who might not be aware.

Its not for me to urge anyone to make up their minds about which way to vote, if Members do choose to vote. There is a lot of information out on the internet on different websites in terms of what trail hunting is, how it is conducted, who controls it, and the myriad of issues surrounding it. Those of you who are Members will have received full details in the AGM literature included with your latest NT magazine, and how to vote either online, or by post. For information, and an easy option to make your vote count, below is the link to enable Members to vote securely. You will need to log in using your NT membership number.

https://secure.cesvotes.com/V3-1-0/nt21/en/login?bbp=30978&x=-1

I hope that like us, many will do the research, make an informed decision, and cast their vote accordingly. My post is merely to bring attention to this important issue, I have no intention of debating hunting on here, as I know it can get very emotive, and the last thing I want is this information to go missing. Others may want to discuss it, but please in that case, open a new thread😁

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Cornersteady replied on 31/10/2021 11:50

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Posted on 31/10/2021 11:48 by

I wouldnt know since I have never considered joining.. Am not interested in country walks or stately homes built on the backs of my fore bearers so why would I?

Posted on 31/10/2021 11:50

Err... did I say you had to in any way?

I merely pointed out that your assumption about no cost being involved in voting in the case of the NT was incorrect.

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Posted on 31/10/2021 11:45 by Takethedogalong

You do right to worry about the dogs as well. They are selectively bred for a single purpose. Any that don’t meet that purpose, or display unacceptable behaviour traits, do not live long. Average age span is around 8 years. Even the Hunt’s admit that thousands are killed each year. One breed that you seldom see in large numbers as pets are Foxhounds. They are a working commodity to the Hunt, valued only for one purpose beyond further breeding. Once trained to kill, hard to rehome.

You will get Foxhounds of course that are pets, will be bred away from Hunting, live normal domesticated lives.

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Posted on 31/10/2021 11:50 by Cornersteady

Err... did I say you had to in any way?

I merely pointed out that your assumption about no cost being involved in voting in the case of the NT was incorrect.

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Takethedogalong replied on 31/10/2021 12:07

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Posted on 31/10/2021 11:27 by

I personally think hunting is distasteful and I don't have much time for the class of people who indulge in it. However its so so easy now with internet campaigns to get a sizable minority to vote at no cost or inconvenience to themselves to ban something they don't want to do. Banning something one wants to do, that takes principle and I have yet to see it.

Posted on 31/10/2021 12:07

Seeing a hunt in full cry across countryside is a wonderful sight, especially if you know what is going on, the dress codes, the etiquette, the history etc..... One of the World’s favourite sports, National Hunt racing was borne out of Hunting, and still has links.
However, it is like many other aspects of our history that involved cruelty, and inflicting pain and suffering on other creatures, and it’s time it moved on to better reflect today’s society. As Drag Hunting demonstrates, it’s perfectly possible to do away with the contentious end product. Both types of hunting can be hard on horses though.

moulesy replied on 31/10/2021 12:11

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Caravanner from Wiltshire

Posted on 31/10/2021 11:53 by

I think worry is putting a bit strong but I did wonder what they are still doing years after it was allegedly banned. As for their lives after work, I think greyhounds and possibly other working dogs face the same, as you say they are not pets

Posted on 31/10/2021 12:11

A bit off topic, sorry, but, actually, retired greyhounds make wonderful companions, particularly for older folk. They need little in the way of exercise and are unexpectedly loyal once settled in their new homes. We see many around and about when out walking - not quite as common as cockapoos, though!

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Cornersteady replied on 31/10/2021 12:11

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Posted on 31/10/2021 11:57 by

At no cost does not have to refer to money, it also refers to giving up something one wants to do. You were able at "no cost" to vote to ban an activity in which you have no involvement. Rather like banning certain things from campsites if they don't affect one. There is more to life than money.

Posted on 31/10/2021 12:11

No it cost me family membership so at a somewhat considerable cost.

I did indeed vote, as to involvement I am involved in the NT, isn't that my right?

I find your comment about not being involved puzzling, you have not had a dog in over 60 years but you often post about dogs on site, dog ownership, and even submitted a question to the privoius AGM on dogs, as is your right of course.

Same for me?

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ADP1963 replied on 31/10/2021 12:42

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Posted on 31/10/2021 12:42

Cornersteady, There are laws against cycling in the manner that I have described as such against cruelty to animals. The Police are aware of these laws, as they are aware of many other laws. Do you honestly think that anyone reporting an incident that I have described would get actioned from the Police ?. I could not even tell you when a Policeman was last seen in our village or surrounding area.

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Cornersteady replied on 31/10/2021 13:07

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Posted on 31/10/2021 12:42 by ADP1963

Cornersteady, There are laws against cycling in the manner that I have described as such against cruelty to animals. The Police are aware of these laws, as they are aware of many other laws. Do you honestly think that anyone reporting an incident that I have described would get actioned from the Police ?. I could not even tell you when a Policeman was last seen in our village or surrounding area.

Posted on 31/10/2021 13:07

This is off topic but if I lived in a village where anyone was causing such a danger as you described then I would certainly report it. I get the impression you haven't so you'll never know what would happen?

As to seeing a police officer in your village that's the same for my street, they only appear when needed?

Takethedogalong replied on 31/10/2021 13:29

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Takethedogalong

Posted on 31/10/2021 12:11 by moulesy

A bit off topic, sorry, but, actually, retired greyhounds make wonderful companions, particularly for older folk. They need little in the way of exercise and are unexpectedly loyal once settled in their new homes. We see many around and about when out walking - not quite as common as cockapoos, though!

Posted on 31/10/2021 13:29

I was just going to say the same M. We used to find abandoned greyhounds occasionally round where we rode our horse. Ex racing, just left tied up where someone would find them after they had got past their racing days. Luckily there’s a wonderful charity that rehomes greyhounds, called Tia. I wouldn’t keep one with a pet cat though.

A lot of working dogs, those that haven’t made the working grade, or got too old, now have a much better chance of being rehabilitated and rehomed.

ADP1963 replied on 31/10/2021 13:34

ADP1963

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Posted on 31/10/2021 13:34

You are right, I have not reported it but number of other people have however and it falls on deaf ears. The Police don't appear when needed always either, that's long been the situation.

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