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For some folks it’s a question of morality and wanting a nicer, more empathetic World, that’s why they get off the sofa and do what might be the only thing they can do, use their vote to try and save something, or protect something. 

You don’t need to be a hands on, get in there and protest activist to have a voice, but showing any institution that it cannot get away with taking the funds with one hand, while calmly ignoring degrees of cruelty and suffering with the other will never be wrong.  You don’t have to actually partake in an activity to know that it is archaic and out of touch with today’s society. I don’t have children, but actively support any campaign that helps prevent child cruelty and exploitation as morally disgusting, and I would never ignore such merely because I don’t happen to have children.

I see you are now saying that farmers and country sports  folk are one of the same so where is my post off topic?

Just to put the record straight they are not trained to kill but like many dogs will follow a scent and will get hold of a "prey" if allowed. However, if you've ever stood amongst a pack of hounds you'll find them to be good natured, friendly and obedient. So many of our dogs were bred for a purpose in the past but now make good family dogs. Labradors, spaniels, terriers etc all were bred for a purpose. 🐕

Hounds just like sheepdog have the ability to do something in their genes. You seem to say if they are not cuddly little things they are an inferior breed.

Trained is possibly too strong a word. “Allowed“ I would suggest. I do know how friendly they can be Brue, they are good natured as well. At every agricultural show I have ever been to, local hunt usually happy to let children into the ring to pet them. But they are bred for a purpose, and if they don’t fulfill that purpose, many don’t survive. Even the hunt’s admit this.

Fish, I don’t believe I have said that any breed is inferior to another. “Cuddly” or otherwise. 

 

As all your dogs come from a long line back and beyond wolves, the killing gene is in everyone. Does not need breeding into them. You only have to read about the incidents from so called "lovely" pets that frequently occur. The more we interfere in the breeding the more problems we seem to create.

It is not the dog  that is to blame for the incidents that make headlines , it is more likely as often is the case the "owners"? Either have little or no idea how to train their dog/s ,or are trained as a weapon 

 

 

 

I voted for the ban and I am neither a townie nor a woke. As a youngster I rode horses, but never hunted. At 12 and out with a friend we came across the Terrier men digging out a fox, which had been driven to ground. They told us to go right away, but as youngsters we just rode a little into the woods. They dug out the terrified animal and then threw it to the hounds, it was horrific. We should have done as we were told but it still would have happened. When the fox has reached its lair it should be left, this is not sport, it’s barbaric. More recently I have seen a young hind chased, when caught this was at least shot but by then it was dead on its legs. This is why I voted for the ban. Trail hunting was brought in to appease some MPs, some of the House of Lords and The Countryside Alliance, and to pretend to ban hunting. Sorry Takethedog this is discussing hunting which you asked us not to do. I apologise and will stop now.

 

 

If anyone is interested there is a good article in Horse and Hound about life in a hunt kennel. I'm not a reader of this magazine but I think it gives a fair description. We have hunt kennels near us, they have open days and encourage people to walk with the hounds. They also have  walkers for the young hounds. I think hounds, generally, enjoy a good "dogs" life.

That's my last word on the subject by the way. I do see the local hunts out and about and I don't like animals being killed for sport.