Leaving dogs unattended in van

richardandros replied on 14/07/2021 16:04

Posted on 14/07/2021 16:04

I was always under the impression that it was not allowed to leave dogs unaccompanied in your caravan whilst staying on Club sites.

We are currently on the NYM site, near Whitby and there is a poor dog barking and whining in the van next to us.  The owners went out this morning and given the experience of the last few days, are unlikely to be back until 1800 or so. It is clearly in distress - although how much is anyone's guess.

We have approached the wardens who are aware of the barking (the pitch is not far from the office) and told Ros, that the dog has been barking since the owners went out.  They had been told that it was being left on its own but had water and a bed and, in fairness, they have left all the roof lights open. It is nevertheless upsetting to have to listen to it. Mrs Warden also said that she was not aware of any rule preventing dogs being left on their own.

Having had a look at the CAMC leaflet - "Touring with Dogs" - it appears that she is correct:-

"Dogs can become anxious when lonely or uncomfortable. To minimise this, make sure
they have somewhere cool to relax, with good ventilation and access to an ample supply of drinking water if you do have to leave them for short times.
Where possible, please keep your dog with you, especially on hot days. A quick build-up of temperatures in cars, awnings, outfits or tents can be fatal to animals."

This isn't a complaint about barking dogs - my complaint, if I have one - is about inconsiderate owners who, in my opinion, are not fit to look after an animal.

Have the rules changed - and if so - why, because it doesn't seem fair to the dog!

 

richardandros replied on 14/07/2021 16:14

Posted on 14/07/2021 16:14

Update - Mrs Warden has now come to tell us that she has contacted the owners and that they are on their way back - but from where, is anyone's guess! However, well done Wardens (who are also dog owners) - at least they have acted (swiftly) with some compassion.

moulesy replied on 14/07/2021 16:19

Posted on 14/07/2021 16:19

Personally I couldn't agree with you more and we never left our dogs unattended.

Owners will obviously be best placed to judge whether their dogs will settle if left alone (and many will) but in this case, especially with current temperatures it's clearly not the case with this poor animal. 

We did have a similar experience once at Chatsworth where a couple went out cycling early in the morning leaving two terriers types in the van whining all day and clearly in distress. I went with a neighbour to let the wardens know and they dealst with the situation very quickly - that evening there was what I understand is called a "full and frank exchange of views" whereupon the owners promptly took down their awning and left the site very early the following morning.

It may be the owners are not aware of the dog's distress of course - might be an idea to have a friendly word with them on their return to explain what has been going on (not easy I accept.) 

richardandros replied on 14/07/2021 17:51

Posted on 14/07/2021 17:35 by JillwithaJay

I wouldn't say morning until evening was a 'short time' though.

Posted on 14/07/2021 17:51

Neither would I Jill - but at least the Wardens did the right thing under the circumstances, indicating they interpreted the “guidance “ sensibly. And M - yes, it was very hot this afternoon. Owners came back about 20 minutes ago - at which point the barking and whining stopped. Just feel so sorry for their dog whom I understand is quite old. Would never have done this to Meg and feel so sorry for their dog. Just can’t understand anyone doing this.

Tinwheeler replied on 14/07/2021 17:54

Posted on 14/07/2021 17:54

The poor dog!  Irrespective of rules, it’s a stupid and irresponsible thing to do to leave a dog for that length of time both from the point of view of the dog's wellbeing and the nuisance caused to others.

I do wish there was an intelligence test that had to be passed before one could become a dog owner๐Ÿ˜ค๐Ÿ˜ค๐Ÿ˜ค

Well done, R&R for bringing it to the warden's attention.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

SeasideBill replied on 14/07/2021 18:03

Posted on 14/07/2021 18:03

The CAMC leaflet “Touring with Dogs” needs a change in emphasis. I’m not interested in dog welfare and don’t want my day ruined by a barking dog - ban the practice of leaving dogs alone. I don’t expect to need a ‘friendly word’ with selfish owners on their return. You wouldn’t expect somebody to go out for the day and leave a generator running or loud radio playing!

moulesy replied on 14/07/2021 18:16

Posted on 14/07/2021 18:16

"I don’t expect to need a ‘friendly word’ with selfish owners on their return."

Understandable, but one has to deal with the situation which exists at the time - little good pining for one's ideal world. The misguided (IMHO) owners may be completely unaware of the situation so best to let them know, friendly or in whichever way one thinks best. And that's not in any way condoning what they have done, especially if, as Richard points out, it's been a hot day.  

BTW, we did once have neighbours who went out for the day and left their radio on, very embarrassed on their return to the van! surprised

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 14/07/2021 18:28

Posted on 14/07/2021 16:14 by richardandros

Update - Mrs Warden has now come to tell us that she has contacted the owners and that they are on their way back - but from where, is anyone's guess! However, well done Wardens (who are also dog owners) - at least they have acted (swiftly) with some compassion.

Posted on 14/07/2021 18:28

Well done Rich๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป. I’d contact the RSPCA & the Police as I’ve done it before. I don’t give a fig about the owners they can go to the WC, drink, eat, cool down. It’s sickening & giving BS about ‘we did everything we could’. Try to Kennel the distraught Dog next time instead of being selfish. There is no excuse-ever.

Wherenext replied on 14/07/2021 18:40

Posted on 14/07/2021 18:40

I do wish there was an intelligence test that had to be passed before one could become a dog owner๐Ÿ˜ค๐Ÿ˜ค๐Ÿ˜ค

I think the dog would win every time.๐Ÿ˜‚

 

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