Leaving dogs unattended in van

richardandros replied on 14/07/2021 16:04

Posted on 14/07/2021 16:04

I was always under the impression that it was not allowed to leave dogs unaccompanied in your caravan whilst staying on Club sites.

We are currently on the NYM site, near Whitby and there is a poor dog barking and whining in the van next to us.  The owners went out this morning and given the experience of the last few days, are unlikely to be back until 1800 or so. It is clearly in distress - although how much is anyone's guess.

We have approached the wardens who are aware of the barking (the pitch is not far from the office) and told Ros, that the dog has been barking since the owners went out.  They had been told that it was being left on its own but had water and a bed and, in fairness, they have left all the roof lights open. It is nevertheless upsetting to have to listen to it. Mrs Warden also said that she was not aware of any rule preventing dogs being left on their own.

Having had a look at the CAMC leaflet - "Touring with Dogs" - it appears that she is correct:-

"Dogs can become anxious when lonely or uncomfortable. To minimise this, make sure
they have somewhere cool to relax, with good ventilation and access to an ample supply of drinking water if you do have to leave them for short times.
Where possible, please keep your dog with you, especially on hot days. A quick build-up of temperatures in cars, awnings, outfits or tents can be fatal to animals."

This isn't a complaint about barking dogs - my complaint, if I have one - is about inconsiderate owners who, in my opinion, are not fit to look after an animal.

Have the rules changed - and if so - why, because it doesn't seem fair to the dog!

 

moulesy replied on 27/07/2021 15:42

Posted on 27/07/2021 15:42

It seems that the debate about AC is really nothing to do with dogs so I'm not entirely sure it fits in with the rest of the thread.

Maybe a new thread should be started elsewhere (or, if Harry the Hymer is looking in - something to add to his list of "rages"! laughing)

Tinwheeler replied on 27/07/2021 16:17

Posted on 27/07/2021 16:12 by JVB66

Your post invited that emojisurprised

Posted on 27/07/2021 16:17

I’m sorry if my post confused you, JV, but I thought it was absolutely clear.🤷🏻‍♂️

It was confirming that it is irresponsible to leave dogs unattended for several hours even if they have Aircon.

richardandros replied on 27/07/2021 17:29

Posted on 27/07/2021 16:17 by Tinwheeler

I’m sorry if my post confused you, JV, but I thought it was absolutely clear.🤷🏻‍♂️

It was confirming that it is irresponsible to leave dogs unattended for several hours even if they have Aircon.

Posted on 27/07/2021 17:29

Totally agree TW - and can I say that I am more than disappointed - that this post - which I started - has been taken over by what I can only describe as a pointless argument about air conditioning in caravans! What on earth has that got to do with what prompted me to make this post in the first place. All I was concerned about was the welfare of that dog - not some “what ifs” that have nothing to do with that. If that’s all some people can talk about then perhaps it’s best if this post was locked.

Tinwheeler replied on 27/07/2021 17:55

Posted on 27/07/2021 17:29 by richardandros

Totally agree TW - and can I say that I am more than disappointed - that this post - which I started - has been taken over by what I can only describe as a pointless argument about air conditioning in caravans! What on earth has that got to do with what prompted me to make this post in the first place. All I was concerned about was the welfare of that dog - not some “what ifs” that have nothing to do with that. If that’s all some people can talk about then perhaps it’s best if this post was locked.

Posted on 27/07/2021 17:55

I think the Aircon was a red herring, Richard, and appeared to largely miss the point of the topic. It seemed an excuse to complain about the noise. 

SeasideBill replied on 27/07/2021 18:03

Posted on 27/07/2021 17:29 by richardandros

Totally agree TW - and can I say that I am more than disappointed - that this post - which I started - has been taken over by what I can only describe as a pointless argument about air conditioning in caravans! What on earth has that got to do with what prompted me to make this post in the first place. All I was concerned about was the welfare of that dog - not some “what ifs” that have nothing to do with that. If that’s all some people can talk about then perhaps it’s best if this post was locked.

Posted on 27/07/2021 18:03

I think there’s a very obvious link between your original post and the subject of owners opting to use air con as a means of leaving an animal unaccompanied. I used an example featured in a recent review to illustrate my point. If you don’t like a bit of lateral thinking to explore broader aspects of an issue, by all means try and get it shut down. Personally I prefer debate to closed minds & censorship.

Cornersteady replied on 27/07/2021 18:16

Posted on 27/07/2021 18:03 by SeasideBill

I think there’s a very obvious link between your original post and the subject of owners opting to use air con as a means of leaving an animal unaccompanied. I used an example featured in a recent review to illustrate my point. If you don’t like a bit of lateral thinking to explore broader aspects of an issue, by all means try and get it shut down. Personally I prefer debate to censorship.

Posted on 27/07/2021 18:16

subject of owners opting to use air con as a means of leaving an animal unaccompanied

How many owners do you know that have done this? You found one review, do you personally know of more? Is it that prevalent?  

I can't really remember seeing that many AC units on club sites. Usually MH have them more than caravans in my experience.

And is opting to use AC to leave unaccompanied dogs really a subject? Do dog owners all have AC just in case they want to leave their dog for a (short) period of time? In my time on CT many subjects have been identified and discussed but this is the first I've heard of this one?

replied on 27/07/2021 18:28

Posted on 27/07/2021 18:16 by Cornersteady

subject of owners opting to use air con as a means of leaving an animal unaccompanied

How many owners do you know that have done this? You found one review, do you personally know of more? Is it that prevalent?  

I can't really remember seeing that many AC units on club sites. Usually MH have them more than caravans in my experience.

And is opting to use AC to leave unaccompanied dogs really a subject? Do dog owners all have AC just in case they want to leave their dog for a (short) period of time? In my time on CT many subjects have been identified and discussed but this is the first I've heard of this one?

Posted on 27/07/2021 18:28

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Cornersteady replied on 27/07/2021 18:37

Posted on 27/07/2021 18:28 by

I know one and its a friend of ours. His aircon was very quiet (as they go ) and we were not parked too close but his Rot spent many a quiet hour snoozing in the van.

Posted on 27/07/2021 18:37

Unaccompanied though? I mean left on his/her own without the owners being there or just outside?

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