CL Price Rises

harryb replied on 08/07/2022 18:06

Posted on 08/07/2022 18:06

I have just read a report on FB about a cl owner apologising for putting up her prices.

I thought it a very refreshing reply to some of the large price increases I've seen lately. What cl's owners have to remember is that they are not the only ones suffering from the present climate, so are the members.

I have pasted the article below with some minor changes for identity reasons.

"Just returned from this little gem CL.  It’s *************** at ************, There are EHUs around the edge of the field and a toilet and shower. The owner is extremely friendly and checked with us most days that everything was ok. She said she had to increase the pitch price this year to £15pn, which I said was understandable and still a very good price. Her response was that she didn’t want to increase it too much as WE had to pay so much more for fuel than last year and if she charged too much people wouldn’t be able to afford to use their caravans and motor homes. I thought that it’s a great shame more site owners don’t have the same outlook.".

nelliethehooker replied on 13/07/2022 21:56

Posted on 13/07/2022 21:46 by DavidKlyne

I suppose somebody new coming to the ownership would have carefully looked at the costs (the site does have EHU). Perhaps also looked at other facilities that seem to be offered by the business and concluded that prices either had to go up or would take a price increase. The proof of the pudding will be in the level of occupancy they get. Looking at the availability chart there seems plenty of it? Now is that historic or is it because of a price hike? 

David

Posted on 13/07/2022 21:56

It was a relatively popular site but never full when we visited, so it is hard to tell if the availability is due to the price rise or not, but there are not many sites in the area to choose from.

KjellNN replied on 13/07/2022 23:08

Posted on 13/07/2022 23:08

Interestingly, when we arrived at our current CL.....the one who told us the price would be going up from £15.......the owner said that the only things that had gone up for them were electricity  costs and insurance costs.  

They had waited till they got the new prices on those before deciding what the price would need to be.   They had also had a visit from a CL inspector, and presumably discussed this with him, and he had agreed that £18 was a reasonable price for the facilities offered.

JVB.......I think a CL would not be needing a cess pit or septic tank emptied anything like as often as a larger site.   Not sure what the drainage is here, but they do not ask for green chemicals to be used.

JVB66 replied on 14/07/2022 09:29

Posted on 14/07/2022 09:29

Like all things these days prices are subject to the area they are in, and the costs of those who service such areas ,  especially. with high  fuel costs

Electricity charges are going up again and I would think that CLs and the like could well be on business rates,,so would not benifit from special rates

I am not saying that some may well be "cashing in" when in popular areas as with the NC 500 (I have read that other than tent campers some councils are this year going to crack down on any other type of the illegal use of the term "wild camping"

Takethedogalong replied on 14/07/2022 10:19

Posted on 14/07/2022 09:29 by JVB66

Like all things these days prices are subject to the area they are in, and the costs of those who service such areas ,  especially. with high  fuel costs

Electricity charges are going up again and I would think that CLs and the like could well be on business rates,,so would not benifit from special rates

I am not saying that some may well be "cashing in" when in popular areas as with the NC 500 (I have read that other than tent campers some councils are this year going to crack down on any other type of the illegal use of the term "wild camping"

Posted on 14/07/2022 10:19

JV, you are speculating on a lot of things. Each CL is unique, in terms of location, costs to set up, budgeting for running, pricing policy of owners, etc….. Some are sole businesses, some are a small part of a much larger business, some are run via a very relaxed mode, others the owners monitor different aspects very carefully. Some have high overheads, some get the grass cut once a week. All very different. 

As far as I am concerned, the owners offer and run them as they wish to do, whilst Members are free to pick and choose what provision they prefer, including facilities on offer and the prices charged. It’s this variety that makes them so attractive. There is literally a CL to suit everyone, be it in terms of facilities, location, price. Long may it be this way👍

JVB66 replied on 14/07/2022 10:27

Posted on 14/07/2022 10:19 by Takethedogalong

JV, you are speculating on a lot of things. Each CL is unique, in terms of location, costs to set up, budgeting for running, pricing policy of owners, etc….. Some are sole businesses, some are a small part of a much larger business, some are run via a very relaxed mode, others the owners monitor different aspects very carefully. Some have high overheads, some get the grass cut once a week. All very different. 

As far as I am concerned, the owners offer and run them as they wish to do, whilst Members are free to pick and choose what provision they prefer, including facilities on offer and the prices charged. It’s this variety that makes them so attractive. There is literally a CL to suit everyone, be it in terms of facilities, location, price. Long may it be this way👍

Posted on 14/07/2022 10:27

I think "speculation?" Is a matter of who posts and their take on any situationwink

Takethedogalong replied on 14/07/2022 10:30

Posted on 13/07/2022 21:46 by DavidKlyne

I suppose somebody new coming to the ownership would have carefully looked at the costs (the site does have EHU). Perhaps also looked at other facilities that seem to be offered by the business and concluded that prices either had to go up or would take a price increase. The proof of the pudding will be in the level of occupancy they get. Looking at the availability chart there seems plenty of it? Now is that historic or is it because of a price hike? 

David

Posted on 14/07/2022 10:30

I have been looking at availability on a lot of CLs that have automated booking systems. There is a lot of capacity at the moment, which surprised me a bit, although I suppose the economic uncertainty at the moment might be having an effect.

It was hard to find an empty CL last year, we were astonished to find even some of our remote, very basic field/tap/ find a space/ No EHU favourites were full. Not the same this year, we still aren’t booking anything more in front than night before off. 

brue replied on 14/07/2022 10:41

Posted on 14/07/2022 10:41

Covid could be causing problems once again. The rates are very high in some areas. Where we are in the Torbay area the numbers are high and hospitals are at capacity.

To make a solo CL viable the costs need to cover all eventualities.

On a CS this year we had to pay an extra £3 on top of the £18 previously advertised (to cover electricity prices.) As this was a very popular all year fishing site I suspect that there would be quite a draw on energy over the whole year.

DavidKlyne replied on 14/07/2022 12:10

Posted on 14/07/2022 10:30 by Takethedogalong

I have been looking at availability on a lot of CLs that have automated booking systems. There is a lot of capacity at the moment, which surprised me a bit, although I suppose the economic uncertainty at the moment might be having an effect.

It was hard to find an empty CL last year, we were astonished to find even some of our remote, very basic field/tap/ find a space/ No EHU favourites were full. Not the same this year, we still aren’t booking anything more in front than night before off. 

Posted on 14/07/2022 12:10

TDA

One would imagine that a CL owner who goes to the bother of having electronic availability and booking facilities are quite business savvy? You would wonder what level of occupancy they would be aiming for? I suppose there are three core deciders on how successful a CL is. A) would be location, B) Facilities offered C) Price. The only one of those elements that flexible is price. Be interesting to see if there is a contraction in people using CL's whether the price is adjusted downwards? My bet would be that probably not?

David

Cornersteady replied on 14/07/2022 12:20

Posted on 13/07/2022 23:08 by KjellNN

Interestingly, when we arrived at our current CL.....the one who told us the price would be going up from £15.......the owner said that the only things that had gone up for them were electricity  costs and insurance costs.  

They had waited till they got the new prices on those before deciding what the price would need to be.   They had also had a visit from a CL inspector, and presumably discussed this with him, and he had agreed that £18 was a reasonable price for the facilities offered.

JVB.......I think a CL would not be needing a cess pit or septic tank emptied anything like as often as a larger site.   Not sure what the drainage is here, but they do not ask for green chemicals to be used.

Posted on 14/07/2022 12:20

Perhaps it's people using air conditioning units that added to the electricity costs?

Personally I don't think they should be used. Extra power and better for the planet. Just open the windows,  or get a low wattage fan? After as you yourself once said said just because you're on holiday it doesn't mean you can forget about saving the planet.

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