Overnight campers' action

Rufs replied on 19/11/2018 14:23

Posted on 19/11/2018 14:23

i quote from our local Conservative news letter, just received

"Motorhome overnighting along the Meon Shore road has increased significantly during this summer. Action is in hand to make the signage clearer and Hill Head Councillors will discuss with officers the best way to prevent a recurrence next summer"

so far from encouraging MH camping in local car parks as a number of members have been advocating, to fall in line with our collegues in Europe, my local council along with others in this area "Hampshire" are actively discouraging. Nothing against MH owners but I support this action, on the grounds that the area is fast becoming an unofficial MH park, and of course there are always the few that go the extra mile and abuse what are unofficial camping facilities, e.g. emptying toilet cassettes in the public toilets, cramming all their garbage into local waste bins, taking up all the car park bays, and using them as their own personal camping area, sometimes 2 bays. Being a caravaner I have never used an Aires, do the facilities that are provided officially within Europe get abused in the same way?, I know the adage "the few spoil it for the many", but we are being overrun by the many, probably because a lot of our sea front parking is free, something as locals, we cherish and would not want to loose as a result of overnight campers etc. Is there something amiss with us Brits or are our EU counterparts just as bad ? 

I should add as a footnote, although our local council are not massively in debt there are certainly no funds in the kitty to provide Aires type facilities, well not in the present climate, and even if they were, I am not sure local people would support such expenditure, ok the local ice cream shops may make a little bit extra, but i think most of the additional spend would go to the out of town super markets and not local shops. I do believe MH's are becoming a problem.

Rufs replied on 24/11/2018 17:07

Posted on 24/11/2018 16:08 by Metheven

I am in favour of charging, charging for all. Set aside spaces for caravanners, motorhomers and cars, I shall have to put pen to paper as the council are losing out on income they can ill afford to lose, obviously the locals want something for nothing, no give but just take with no sharing, shame on them and Mr Ruffs Scrooge.frown

Posted on 24/11/2018 17:07

that is rubbish why should we give up our free parking for a bunch of freeloaders....as i said earlier there is a perfectly 24x7x365 campsite, Kingfisher in our immediate area, not outside, immediate, use it 

Rufs replied on 24/11/2018 17:10

Posted on 24/11/2018 16:10 by

So the locals want to limit the parking to locals only and keep it free.  How very selfish. 

Posted on 24/11/2018 17:10

that is rubbish why should we give up our free parking for a bunch of freeloaders....as i said earlier there is a perfectly 24x7x365 campsite, Kingfisher in our immediate area, not outside, immediate, use it

JVB66 replied on 24/11/2018 17:11

Posted on 24/11/2018 15:56 by Rufs

i don't think it needs vast investment to convert half a dozen spaces in a town car park, the system to check tickets, etc is generally already in place... Sorry you are not getting it, not in  my area, and this is one of the issues i outlined much much earlier, we have free parking which we cherish, if the LC were to introduce machines for MH'ers then they might just see a case for charging everybody. Gosport is different most of their car parks are fee paying and we do have an overlap in Lee on the Solent between Gosport LC and Fareham LC.     

Posted on 24/11/2018 17:11

Unless an area is struggling to attract visitors all parking in all areas should be restricted by hours or charged for as many hours (per hour) including overnight for the stay and that is for all vehicles and as is now being implemented more often blue badge holders

Rufs replied on 24/11/2018 17:12

Posted on 24/11/2018 14:37 by Takethedogalong

That’s 8 year old news Rufs. It solved the problem, which was a true problem, immediately. MHs can still park up in daytime at either Marazion or Longrock, but they no longer overnight there. It was a true case of visitors taking advantage of something for nothing, to the detriment of not only local inhabitants, but also other visitors to area. Families with small children unable to access some of routes onto beach, dog walkers having to walk dogs out into road into oncoming traffic, you couldnt get between some of the vans they were so close. A bit more than a single camper van copping a late night stopover in a none residential area. Ironically, the area has dozens of lovely campsites as well, from very cheap, to all mod cons, so no excuse really.

Posted on 24/11/2018 17:12

look at what happens when you let a bunch of free loaders loose yell

Rufs replied on 24/11/2018 17:14

Posted on 24/11/2018 15:04 by Takethedogalong

Well, from observation of some of the said MHs down the years, ablutions such as a daily wash of person involved the sea, or occasionally the loos and showers further down in Longrock car park. Some appeared to resemble bits of old leather anyway, could have been rust, could have been dirt, hard to say. Clothed in barely more than a tight pair of grubby shorts in most cases, so laundry not much hassle. I guess the loo waste went down the loos, but it is a guess. Having encountered lots of German visitors on another beach not too far away, with nothing on but a sort of metal ring affair (think last chicken in the shop,) we didn’t bat an eyelid at most of these. Let’s just say Cornwall has “clamped down” on certain types of tourist in the area, and nowadays one is less likely to meet something resembling a set of worn out bagpipes strutting down the beach!

Posted on 24/11/2018 17:14

Oh!!! and more

Takethedogalong replied on 24/11/2018 17:28

Posted on 24/11/2018 17:28

You’ll know the beach Tinny, St Ives Bay. Lots of sand dunes between rail track and the beach. A stroll through the dunes was a real eye opener in the Summer. Naked men everywhere, they would “pop up” unexpectedly from behind grassy tussocks. Never a problem for us, we sent the Airedale’s in first, cue lots of swearing and a mad dash for clothes. We used to call them poppers, not true naturists, a bit different if you get my drift. wink Occasionally one would strut down the beach, not a stitch on, but once the cold water hit they weren’t quite so full of themselves. We did get one who wanted his photo taking with our dogs. Probably made that month’s Centre spread!surprisedcool

You would get the odd camper van down at Dynamite Quay when you could still park down there, overlooking those cabins in the dunes across the river. But it was never taken over, just the odd one or two.

young thomas replied on 24/11/2018 17:31

Posted on 24/11/2018 17:31

I wouldn't object to a 'cars free, MH overnight £X' policy...

im more than happy to pay the going rate to overnight in my van...yes, I mainly use free Parkings but to be in (say) exmouth (which we like) for a couple of nights and we'd happily pay a sensible rate.

perhaps Rufs (and his towns folk) could keep their free parking yet still accommodate paying MHs, in tandem...

having said that, this is totally the opposite to many of the car parks 'over there'....(of course)... where charging (for all vehicles) is levied during the daytime where spaces are in demand, and then charges are relaxed after (say)7pm through to 9am when there's virtually no one around..

 

Rufs replied on 24/11/2018 17:33

Posted on 24/11/2018 17:16 by Tinwheeler

This is getting good now. 

Popcorn, anyone? 😀

 

Posted on 24/11/2018 17:33

Obviously on the defensive again as no constructive comment to make, I dont know what makes some MH'ers think they have the right to park just about anywhere and dictate what local policy should be in a local area for which they contribute nothing. Oh sorry as I think somebody else referred to "you have been reading the glossy brochures re living the good life in your expensive castles on wheels" but now you are finding the good life more and more difficult to find,  unless you pay, which some of you seem very reluctant to do.

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