Overnight campers' action

Posted on 20/11/2018 12:07 by

I detect two distinct patterns here.  NIMBYism and selfish jealousy (don't want somebody else to get something for free or at little cost).

 

Posted on 20/11/2018 12:32 by Tinwheeler

I detect a third and that’s the responsible view of wanting our seafronts and other areas to be kept pleasant, tidy and respectable for all to enjoy within the parameters laid down by the LAs. Not NIMBY-ism or jealousy but a sense of fair play.

Posted on 20/11/2018 12:59 by Takethedogalong

There’s yet another element. You cannot fairly compare somewhere the size of Europe, with its cultural history of motorhoming, it’s aires and different town/village culture, with a tiny little island like GB, where space is at a premium, our network of cheaper sites (CLs, CSs) are primarily rural based, and as we know if an Englishman buys and owns his “castle”, woe betide if having spent all that money for a nice retirement view, anything threatens it!

We have regular battles with ordinary car owners attending rugby matches who think they can park up on our tiny narrow street (one car wide). They park up without a thought for local residents trying to get in and out of drives, or if they require an ambulance or other emergency service. We have a mobilised community response that involves a couple of 4x4s parked up half inch from both bumpers of offending cars. It means they are then inconvenienced, have to come knocking on doors to get out, whereby they get it explained to them how their selfishness impacts on others. All to avoid paying in car park 100 metres away. It doesn’t happen often, but is our way of avoiding our venal Council yellow lining the road and then charging us for parking permits! 

 

Posted on 20/11/2018 11:00 by cyberyacht

I can understand the ire of local residents towards 'long-stay' LVs but that can be resolved by the institution of a 24 or 48 hour parking limit. 

As for the individual using additional parking space for his BBQ/chairs, I'd have been inclined to throw them in the sea as well. Such conduct along with waste discharge is anti-social and spoils it for the rest of us. 

Prohibition of specific classes of vehicle opens a whole can of worms. What about 'white van man' who wants to stop for his lunch for instance? Same size, same colour ( mostly) as a motorhome.

Posted on 20/11/2018 10:08 by Takethedogalong

Found this interesting article, some may already have seen it

https://wildaboutscotland.com/2017/09/24/why-taxing-motorhomes-for-visiting-the-western-isles-is-a-bad-idea/

I think that respect for places visited, and local people, has to be considered. Neither MH or caravans are attractive if congregating in huge numbers, we stayed at Hurn Lane Club Site for first time last month, arrived in dark, and were horrified at what was all around us next morning, thousands of little white boxes as far as the eye could see! (Club Site was nice, as expected, but we will never go back, location not our kind of place) 

 

Posted on 20/11/2018 13:51 by Rufs

This was a very informative article & one Councils, MH owners and caravaners should embrace, speculate to accumalate, springs to mind, however, a negative not mentioned in the article was highway capacity. I had the pleasure of driving coaches in Scotland for a number of years, Carlise - Inverness, sometimes via the east coast route Mcduff etc, in just a couple of years I noticed, yes MH growth in particular, in the area which was becoming a problem on some roads, and i think I have seen some complaints within this forum, re challenging roads in some parts of Scotland. As a caravaner I do try to avoid roads that could be challenging, but again, not knocking MH's, despite some  of them being nearly as big as the coaches i drove, some of the people driving them did seem to think they were driving a car, yes i know the same could be said of caravaners, just an observation from an ex professional driver.