Overnight campers' action

Rufs replied on 19/11/2018 14:23

Posted on 19/11/2018 14:23

i quote from our local Conservative news letter, just received

"Motorhome overnighting along the Meon Shore road has increased significantly during this summer. Action is in hand to make the signage clearer and Hill Head Councillors will discuss with officers the best way to prevent a recurrence next summer"

so far from encouraging MH camping in local car parks as a number of members have been advocating, to fall in line with our collegues in Europe, my local council along with others in this area "Hampshire" are actively discouraging. Nothing against MH owners but I support this action, on the grounds that the area is fast becoming an unofficial MH park, and of course there are always the few that go the extra mile and abuse what are unofficial camping facilities, e.g. emptying toilet cassettes in the public toilets, cramming all their garbage into local waste bins, taking up all the car park bays, and using them as their own personal camping area, sometimes 2 bays. Being a caravaner I have never used an Aires, do the facilities that are provided officially within Europe get abused in the same way?, I know the adage "the few spoil it for the many", but we are being overrun by the many, probably because a lot of our sea front parking is free, something as locals, we cherish and would not want to loose as a result of overnight campers etc. Is there something amiss with us Brits or are our EU counterparts just as bad ? 

I should add as a footnote, although our local council are not massively in debt there are certainly no funds in the kitty to provide Aires type facilities, well not in the present climate, and even if they were, I am not sure local people would support such expenditure, ok the local ice cream shops may make a little bit extra, but i think most of the additional spend would go to the out of town super markets and not local shops. I do believe MH's are becoming a problem.

replied on 20/11/2018 14:10

Posted on 20/11/2018 14:07 by dave the rave

will campsites go the way of high street shops?

Posted on 20/11/2018 14:10

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mickysf replied on 20/11/2018 14:11

Posted on 20/11/2018 14:07 by dave the rave

will campsites go the way of high street shops?

Posted on 20/11/2018 14:11

?

Well I can't see sites showing on the Internet as virtual reality venues quite yet or receiving our pitch in that eBay/Amazon delivery white van. Might make the start of a good plot for Black Mirror though.

Rufs replied on 20/11/2018 14:16

Posted on 20/11/2018 13:55 by Tinwheeler

I’m starting to get the impression that you’re not keen on MHs in general, Rufs.😕

It’s a good job the club has formally embraced us.👍🏻

Posted on 20/11/2018 14:16

quite the opposite TW, after having a very public facing role for many years, and having to contend with them for many hours per day, whilst driving a 56+ seater vehicle, i consider myself to be a very placid type of guy who gets along with most people, providing they are respectful and considerate, most MH's fit this bill laughing

mickysf replied on 20/11/2018 14:18

Posted on 20/11/2018 14:16 by Rufs

quite the opposite TW, after having a very public facing role for many years, and having to contend with them for many hours per day, whilst driving a 56+ seater vehicle, i consider myself to be a very placid type of guy who gets along with most people, providing they are respectful and considerate, most MH's fit this bill laughing

Posted on 20/11/2018 14:18

Beware not the motorhomes but the motorhomers within them!wink

Takethedogalong replied on 20/11/2018 14:21

Posted on 20/11/2018 13:32 by

So it is okay for you as a local resident to park on the narrow public highway and presumably inconvenience anyone wishing to use the "tiny narrow street (one car wide)".  If that is not the case why would you object to getting the street yellowed lined, after all if it is so narrow then needing a parking permit is simply a red herring as parking is not possible.  

Posted on 20/11/2018 14:21

The street is a dead end, not a thoroughfare. The only people who use it are residents and their occasional visitors. Most of whom respect the fact that it is easily blocked by thoughtless individuals, and park either on their own drives or in such a manner that others who live here are not inconvenienced. My personal “inconvenience” was a dislocated shoulder that had me walking an extra 50 metres to reach an ambulance that couldn’t get through. Anyone who has ever experienced a total dislocation will understand perfectly just how desperately I needed that ambulance full of Entonox. All because some selfish illegitimate wanted to save a couple of pounds in car park fees. 

Parking by residents, who respect one another, is possible for a time. You just don’t block access for others, or go out leaving vehicle for a long time. Yellow lines wouldn’t help, it would require someone to police it, which won’t happen. 

dave the rave replied on 20/11/2018 14:34

Posted on 20/11/2018 14:10 by

In favour of what?

Posted on 20/11/2018 14:34

let me explain!reduced number of customers,same running costs,profit turns to loss,business closes!!frown

brue replied on 20/11/2018 14:39

Posted on 20/11/2018 14:39

This is a copied photo of some of the problems in the city where my previously mentioned relative lives. The nearby cemetery toilet facilities are used by the van dwellers. The reason for the increased use of vans for habitation is quoted as the local cost of housing. Caravans can be moved on apparently but not motorhomes. One area of the city has had parking restrictions added due to this type of parking, the residents now have to hunt around each day for parking places, often several streets away.

Difficult times for all concerned. The issue of long stay parking in "nice" places by the coast etc could be seasonal or it could become more fixed as with these inner city problems. Residential costs rise and people find their own solutions.

This is being replicated in many places, the rest of us, who have a choice need to behave responsibly regarding when and where we park our motorhomes.

 

replied on 20/11/2018 14:40

Posted on 20/11/2018 14:21 by Takethedogalong

The street is a dead end, not a thoroughfare. The only people who use it are residents and their occasional visitors. Most of whom respect the fact that it is easily blocked by thoughtless individuals, and park either on their own drives or in such a manner that others who live here are not inconvenienced. My personal “inconvenience” was a dislocated shoulder that had me walking an extra 50 metres to reach an ambulance that couldn’t get through. Anyone who has ever experienced a total dislocation will understand perfectly just how desperately I needed that ambulance full of Entonox. All because some selfish illegitimate wanted to save a couple of pounds in car park fees. 

Parking by residents, who respect one another, is possible for a time. You just don’t block access for others, or go out leaving vehicle for a long time. Yellow lines wouldn’t help, it would require someone to police it, which won’t happen. 

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Tinwheeler replied on 20/11/2018 14:44

Posted on 20/11/2018 14:16 by Rufs

quite the opposite TW, after having a very public facing role for many years, and having to contend with them for many hours per day, whilst driving a 56+ seater vehicle, i consider myself to be a very placid type of guy who gets along with most people, providing they are respectful and considerate, most MH's fit this bill laughing

Posted on 20/11/2018 14:44

Thanks for explaining that the impression you were creating isn’t the reality. 👍🏻

Rufs replied on 20/11/2018 14:50

Posted on 20/11/2018 12:28 by cyberyacht

Since by Rufs own admission and my observation "Meon shore is quite isolated", why is a couple of MHs overnighting such a big deal for the local residents. Providing they leave no mess, where is the harm? Is it a latent fear of 'travellers'?

Posted on 20/11/2018 14:50

CY agreed a couple should not be a big deal, but unfortunately this escalates, and from the now two you get 6, you get 1 bad egg, who pee's in the hedge, leaves his rubbish in the hedge, or worse throws it into the nature reserve, leaves his burnt out BBQ on the beach and then everybody is tarred with the same brush, dont get me wrong it is not just MH owners who do this, and in some cases they get the blame just because they have been there a couple of days, and dare i say it, we do seem to attract some of the less attractive MH's whose occupants could be the most charming of people but their mode of transport does not look that great, so people do sometimes form the wrong opinion. I do cycle this area a lot and we have a family Beach House at Tichfield so i see what i see. You should have seen how many MH's we had the night of the Cowes firework display to mark the end of Cowes week, but in all fairness i walked the area the day after and in the main it was left very clean, but the numbers did upset a few people, primarily because they had camped there for a couple of days and bagged all the best spotsyell  

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