An open letter to the Community Manager - reviews

Tinwheeler replied on 11/08/2019 19:02

Posted on 11/08/2019 19:02

Dear Rowena,

I think the time has come to press you on the issue of comments made on reviews. I know you are very busy but the situation is becoming rather discordant and inconsistent.

You have posted some information concerning the content of reviews recently but I can see nothing from you regarding the posting of comments. David Klyne, in the thread titled Reviews, posted some words on the subject on 04.08.19 and my post (pictured below) seeking further information was also reported to you in an effort to establish clarification. Unfortunately, I’ve not seen a response from any source.

Yesterday (10.08.19), a new review appeared which was clearly in breach of the Community Guidelines and several of us commented explaining how the Guidelines answered the poster's question. Seemingly legitimate responses were subsequently Deleted User fairly quickly yet the review remained until early afternoon today when it was quite rightly removed. Can you imagine the confusion this caused?

I have no intention of querying moderation here but, obviously, different people have different views on what is acceptable and what is not and it is that very difference and lack of guidance relating to comments which is causing a less than standardised approach.

Therefore, may I please ask for a definitive clarification of what is, or is not, permitted in comments on reviews to be included in the Guidelines? We, as posters, need to know what is acceptable to yourself and the moderators so that we can all sing from the same song sheet.

Regards.

TW

 

replied on 14/08/2019 18:00

Posted on 14/08/2019 17:45 by Cornersteady

A good example of a possible (I stress possible) malicious review is on the Brora Site. It is difficult to understand what happened without further details, but of course those are missing. The wardens applied the club policy perfectly in a certain aspect and you can see the result. Again a complaint to the club is better.

https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/club-together/reviews/club-site-reviews/brora-caravan-club-site/

Posted on 14/08/2019 18:00

 Corners I'm not saying dont apply the club polices.

 

What I am saying is if the WAY those conversations are being interpreted by US the customer is of poor customer service, (a number of them, im surprised tbh at the amount) then that's showing a fault with the wardens manner, and maybe a lack of procedures/implementation to follow under such circumstances.

 

"Hello Mr Swiss person, I'm sorry we are unable to accept you at this time because of abc".

"Can I empty the toilet" ?

"I'm sorry its against club policy, I can provide the number of EGH if you wish to phone them and seek further advice".

 

Ok so they could still write a negative review, but would it still contain the overtones it did? 

I'm not sure, but let's say it did, I've read it, and dismissed it as half a dozen of one and 12 of the other, so it wouldnt influence my decision to go to that site.

You cant have a review section for just good reviews, as I say, wardens form part of the site, they are open for criticism, it's the job, as is anyone in customer services, me too as a representative of the company it's in my contract to be polite at all times, and I just drive a lorry!

 

Tinwheeler replied on 14/08/2019 18:05

Posted on 14/08/2019 17:45 by Cornersteady

A good example of a possible (I stress possible) malicious review is on the Brora Site. It is difficult to understand what happened without further details, but of course those are missing. The wardens applied the club policy perfectly in a certain aspect and you can see the result. Again a complaint to the club is better.

https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/club-together/reviews/club-site-reviews/brora-caravan-club-site/

Posted on 14/08/2019 18:05

A perfect example of the review section being used inappropriately and another instance where the 'reviewer' has not understood the club's policy. 

There is clearly more to it in terms of availability of pitches so it is one common sense dictates is best reported and left to the club to investigate. 

replied on 14/08/2019 18:09

Posted on 14/08/2019 18:05 by Tinwheeler

A perfect example of the review section being used inappropriately and another instance where the 'reviewer' has not understood the club's policy. 

There is clearly more to it in terms of availability of pitches so it is one common sense dictates is best reported and left to the club to investigate. 

Posted on 14/08/2019 18:09

No.

The person was left feeling that there was overtones to the wardens decision. 

You cannot expect a person to accept any language, or manner from a warden simply because they themselves havnt read the rule book.

The Warden should have taken time, effort and maybe referred up so the MEMBER didnt feel this way. 

What you are saying, in essence is, if the member is making a request not allowed under club rules they can be spoken to any old how!

No.

..........

The subject here is can that person include this in a review?

Yes 

replied on 14/08/2019 18:11

Posted on 14/08/2019 18:11

The person was left feeling that there was overtones to the wardens decision.

Allegedly or was he just annoyed that he could not empty and fill up? We will never know.

replied on 14/08/2019 18:13

Posted on 14/08/2019 18:11 by

The person was left feeling that there was overtones to the wardens decision.

Allegedly or was he just annoyed that he could not empty and fill up? We will never know.

Posted on 14/08/2019 18:13

True, but everyone can make up their own minds who reads it 

I have, an even though I'm pro member on 99.9% of all issues, 

On this one I'm calling it 50 50.

Which we are all free to do.

 

But again, not the discussion point.

Cornersteady replied on 14/08/2019 18:16

Posted on 14/08/2019 18:05 by Tinwheeler

A perfect example of the review section being used inappropriately and another instance where the 'reviewer' has not understood the club's policy. 

There is clearly more to it in terms of availability of pitches so it is one common sense dictates is best reported and left to the club to investigate. 

Posted on 14/08/2019 18:16

indeed, and this is not the first time (being turned away) that this had happened to this reviewer, Again I am not saying they are being insincere.

Cornersteady replied on 14/08/2019 18:19

Posted on 14/08/2019 18:11 by

The person was left feeling that there was overtones to the wardens decision.

Allegedly or was he just annoyed that he could not empty and fill up? We will never know.

Posted on 14/08/2019 18:19

I think the latter here ET, a possible case of where being told no (or as they put it NO) is then labelled as unfriendly and not welcome, especially as all other reviews I could see are positive. Even the depth to which they found excuses for being turned away indicates something? Being Swiss being the most ridiculous one? How did they get that from the wardens?

replied on 14/08/2019 18:20

Posted on 14/08/2019 18:16 by Cornersteady

indeed, and this is not the first time (being turned away) that this had happened to this reviewer, Again I am not saying they are being insincere.

Posted on 14/08/2019 18:20

So for the point of this debate, 

 

You have read their review, and others they have written,  and dismissed them

I too have partially dismissed them

 

So you and I are in agreement

 

Let reviews stand as is, no harm being done, provided Fred doesnt come back from the Quarry!

 

Brilliant 

Only a matter of time before you saw sense X

 

All I need now is JVB to tell me they have a distant cousin who drives a digger! Clocks ticking 

JayOutdoors replied on 14/08/2019 18:52

Posted on 14/08/2019 18:52

Apologies for going off thread.

Wellys and Mac – Hope you don’t mind me asking but just wondering if the big gaps between your sentences are part of the software you are using to type into then maybe you copy & paste into CT.

Tinwheeler replied on 14/08/2019 19:01

Posted on 14/08/2019 18:09 by

No.

The person was left feeling that there was overtones to the wardens decision.

 

You cannot expect a person to accept any language, or manner from a warden simply because they themselves havnt read the rule book.

The Warden should have taken time, effort and maybe referred up so the MEMBER didnt feel this way.

 

What you are saying, in essence is, if the member is making a request not allowed under club rules they can be spoken to any old how!

No.

..........

The subject here is can that person include this in a review?

Yes 

Posted on 14/08/2019 19:01

No, what?

With respect, Brit, you are making huge leaps there and imagining things I have not said. That’s the polite version of my thoughts.

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