Server Errors again

Tinwheeler replied on 09/08/2022 20:07

Posted on 09/08/2022 19:54 by DavidKlyne

B2

In fairness you are trying to shoot the messenger! As I understand it Rowena's job does not extend to IT problems, that is another department. She will, of course, report issues raised, as she has said on here, to those in charge of core IT but that, I expect, is the extent of the influence. There is a whole host of things going on at the moment with Club IT that is likely to impact on CT which I am sure is not being given any priority whilst they get the new booking system up and running. I appreciate that it is frustrating when things don't seem to work smoothly.

David

Posted on 09/08/2022 20:07

Perhaps you misread B2's post, David, as she specifically said she’s not having a go at Ro. I don’t think anyone here blames Rowena for this appalling mess.

Bakers2 replied on 09/08/2022 20:22

Posted on 09/08/2022 20:22

DavidKlyne I'm certainly not shooting Rowena, I expect she has very little real influence in the great scheme of things. But if it were me, and I'm sincerely glad it's not - I'd be hiding as far away from CT and our comments as possible which appears to be the case, BUT I would be raising it a regular intervals. I am like a dog with a bone  as I've been told on many occasions 😉🤣, and I generally get results eventually 😀Maybe she is but there's no hint of it in any if her replies. Not even "I have drawn it to the appropriate departments attention again and await a response" Again I know the party line must be towed

nelliethehooker replied on 09/08/2022 20:50

Posted on 09/08/2022 19:54 by DavidKlyne

B2

In fairness you are trying to shoot the messenger! As I understand it Rowena's job does not extend to IT problems, that is another department. She will, of course, report issues raised, as she has said on here, to those in charge of core IT but that, I expect, is the extent of the influence. There is a whole host of things going on at the moment with Club IT that is likely to impact on CT which I am sure is not being given any priority whilst they get the new booking system up and running. I appreciate that it is frustrating when things don't seem to work smoothly.

David

Posted on 09/08/2022 20:50

David, there was, a while ago, a member of the IT dept, I have forgotten his name, who responded on here to a number of relevant queries, but that was short lived. Perhaps he was embarrassed by the lack of effort being put in by his department in trying to solve the problems in CT. As myself and others have said this looks like the beginning, or perhaps the middle, of the end for CT, an easy way for HO to get rid of it, there being fewer and fewer posters and postings.

Tinwheeler replied on 09/08/2022 20:57

Posted on 09/08/2022 20:50 by nelliethehooker

David, there was, a while ago, a member of the IT dept, I have forgotten his name, who responded on here to a number of relevant queries, but that was short lived. Perhaps he was embarrassed by the lack of effort being put in by his department in trying to solve the problems in CT. As myself and others have said this looks like the beginning, or perhaps the middle, of the end for CT, an easy way for HO to get rid of it, there being fewer and fewer posters and postings.

Posted on 09/08/2022 20:57

Justin from the Service Desk.

brue replied on 09/08/2022 21:32

Posted on 09/08/2022 21:32

CAMC FB and Twitter have active responses from staff. If you use these maybe post a question about the mechanical failures of CT on there? It's all classified as social media and as CT is "in house" it should be working and in good order. It's been going a long time so deserves a bit of attention. smile

N1805 replied on 10/08/2022 08:43

Posted on 10/08/2022 08:43

Some time back (definitely pre’covid) there were posts which speculated about the demise of CT but it is still here and Rowena said on page 2 “A plan is in place to improve the functionality of the Club Together platform moving forward and we will be able to share further details in due course.”   So I guess it will continue.

I understand Rowena’s job is to manage CT for its use by members and others, I personally  find the lack of input on CT from HO staff poor bearing in mind we were introduced to some of them (again well before covid) as being possible contributors.  

Just a thought  -  if brue’s post is correct “CAMC FB and Twitter have active responses from staff” maybe 1 or 2 could sometimes be re-directed to answer questions here on CT as not everyone uses Facebook/Twitter etc.

young thomas replied on 10/08/2022 09:07

Posted on 09/08/2022 19:54 by DavidKlyne

B2

In fairness you are trying to shoot the messenger! As I understand it Rowena's job does not extend to IT problems, that is another department. She will, of course, report issues raised, as she has said on here, to those in charge of core IT but that, I expect, is the extent of the influence. There is a whole host of things going on at the moment with Club IT that is likely to impact on CT which I am sure is not being given any priority whilst they get the new booking system up and running. I appreciate that it is frustrating when things don't seem to work smoothly.

David

Posted on 10/08/2022 09:07

David, any organisation has to have the capability to respond to errors and bugs in current IT systems while also pushing on with upcoming projects. 

Systems development (projects) has to run alongside day to day maintenance in order to ensure current users can continue to work properly.

'sorry but we are all busy on the new system' isn't a viable stance if your current systems are falling apart.

as mentioned earlier, if a failing CT had any sort of financial impact it would be fixed straight away.

CT doesn't fall into that category so doesn't have the same urgency.

However, I think what folk are looking for is an honest, up front, clear statement about the ongoing future of CT and, if it is going to remain, then what the plan is to patch it up and at least make it usable. 

with no other access to IT staff, Ro is the conduit for our complaints and the expected feedback from IT. I don't think anyone is shooting the messenger, it's just that the messenger is the only contact point. IMHO, Ro remains between a rock and a hard place.

Notwithstanding its regular crashes, inaccessible pages etc, it remains (by some considerable margin) the slowest site I think I've ever used, irrespective of one's broadband speed.

the lack of a response from the Club (other than the promise of a plan sometime) says a lot about its treatment of its customers.

Burgundy replied on 10/08/2022 09:32

Posted on 10/08/2022 09:32

My guess would be the club is going to migrate to a brand new system and dump the present system. Problems with the new booking system is putting it on hold. That’s why nothing happening. Just a guess. undecided

SteveL replied on 10/08/2022 09:35

Posted on 10/08/2022 09:35

One way they could immediately gain a little more respect from there customers,  is to stop pulling the plug on the website without telling anyone. Why not employ a pop up warning which you have to dismiss, like other organisations. It’s just so annoying if your in the middle of posting and will be even more of an issue if they do it in the middle of booking / paying a deposit.

GTP replied on 10/08/2022 09:44

Posted on 10/08/2022 09:44

Ive tried 5 attempts to access the Motorhome/Caravan chat thread this morning...just got the usual 'error' message.

As I have said before...the club needs some new blood at the top to sort this..and a few other  issues...most companies (and this is a company not a club) replace the CEO / COO after a few (but not too many) years..

Tin Hat time...Personally I think the whole Head Office should relocate to Yorkshire...where there is access to fast reliable business broadband, cheaper premises....relocation and start up grants available...etc..

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