Membership fees and request by Club to continue

Posted on 18/04/2020 13:48 by DaveJ99

The question is, in the tough times when savings have to be made, is management exempt?  I say it is an expendable overhead and slimming it down has to be done as a matter of principle. I also say customer facing people, who make great holidays happen, are not so expendable and you need to tread carefully.

Based on 40 years in business, dealing with some very hard times, my experience is that management is much over-rated as a necessity. Those folks looking after customers in the field, on the phone and so on are amazingly good. You just let them get on with it and let the high rollers go.

Posted on 18/04/2020 12:02 by Takethedogalong

I would suggest the Club might be like a lot of other companies, small businesses and individuals. Something as huge, life altering, extended as this should call for a bit of a reassessment of a lot of aspects of how companies and small businesses are run, and for individuals, what are the real priorities one requires to maintain a decent life. It’s long been said that a large percentage of individuals are only 3 salary payments away from destitution. Those companies/charities paying huge salaries to top executives and not a great deal to core workers need to reset the moral compass. Those businesses looking to expand, expand, expand, need to rein things in a bit more. Those businesses not providing essentials for life just might not make it back for a very long time, if ever.  It’s very sad, but this is a life changer, make no mistake. The oldies once let of the leash will need to guard their health more, the youngsters will need to re assess huge parts of their lives from a monetary aspect. And everyone will be paying for the bail out of businesses, furloughs and other hand outs for a very long time, one way or another. 

Posted on 17/04/2020 20:58 by DavidKlyne

Notice I said earlier, minimise overheads, not minimise costs. For me that means less generals, not less infantry. For me, management is an expendable overhead like everything else. Customer facing warriors, who make great holidays, are a necessary cost and not so expendable. Members tend to value the warden who took care of the heart attack victim, or the customer support agent who got home a family stranded in Europe. They value gleaming facilities and a well-kept site. They get irritated by price rises, excess management, poor maintenance, cheap toilet rolls, smaller light bulbs, hanging on the phone, false economies. You know the kind of thing.

I would be interested to know what evidence you base your views on. How is the management top heavy and what roles would you cut? Organisations don't function without management in the same way the army would not function without officers. Its all very well having a pop at the club's leadership but unless you have an intimate knowledge of the structure and how it functions I don't see how you have reached your conclusions.

David 

Posted on 19/04/2020 00:25 by Alan14

It's not possible to state how management is, or is not, top heavy, for they refuse to publish their incomes and pensions payments, and yes, of course I have asked. However a quick check of what they DO have compared to the Camping and Caravan club reveals that there is a great deal more paid to staff in income and pensions (pro-rata)  in this club. It may, of course, be paid to 'ground workers', the wardens, those whom the top brass have furloughed, to be paid for by the taxpayer - but I think not. The leader has declared that 'we're all in this together', but as he has 3 other jobs, I feel entitled to wonder. This not knowing could be easily laid to rest. Tell us that the management team who are still employed are sharing that burden with the site wardens, and that they too are on 80% - and tell us that they too are also allowed 3 other jobs, just like the CCC leader is. Then, perhaps, I'll believe that "We're all in this together".

 

Posted on 19/04/2020 00:25 by Alan14

It's not possible to state how management is, or is not, top heavy, for they refuse to publish their incomes and pensions payments, and yes, of course I have asked. However a quick check of what they DO have compared to the Camping and Caravan club reveals that there is a great deal more paid to staff in income and pensions (pro-rata)  in this club. It may, of course, be paid to 'ground workers', the wardens, those whom the top brass have furloughed, to be paid for by the taxpayer - but I think not. The leader has declared that 'we're all in this together', but as he has 3 other jobs, I feel entitled to wonder. This not knowing could be easily laid to rest. Tell us that the management team who are still employed are sharing that burden with the site wardens, and that they too are on 80% - and tell us that they too are also allowed 3 other jobs, just like the CCC leader is. Then, perhaps, I'll believe that "We're all in this together".

 

Posted on 20/04/2020 08:28 by TonyBurrell

I’m also a member of the C&CC, they have extended the membership in relation to the time lost from this virus so I will not renew membership with this club.