New Sites Directory and Handbook

Phishing replied on 10/01/2021 20:01

Posted on 09/01/2021 22:48 by Cornersteady

The SD has just come out now I believe? Why 18 months?

Just imagine no battery?

Posted on 10/01/2021 20:01

18 months because the poster said they kept the previous version in the car which means that it is 12 months out of date and the prep time and publishing deadline will push that back another 6 months so the version they haveto hand is at least 12 months out of date.

Wherenext replied on 10/01/2021 20:06

Posted on 10/01/2021 20:06

I really cannot understand why people are having a go at other members who still like a paper product.

It's like insisting that cash should be banished overnight and only cards used for buying stuff. There's room for both at this moment in time. As us old dinosaurs become extinct so paperless books, directories, cash, maps, passports, newspapers, leaflets, libraries, pamphlets etc will be consigned to museums but until then just put us in a little corner and let us get on with our reading.

Some of us actually enjoy having a book or map in our hands.

Cornersteady replied on 10/01/2021 20:07

Posted on 10/01/2021 20:01 by Phishing

18 months because the poster said they kept the previous version in the car which means that it is 12 months out of date and the prep time and publishing deadline will push that back another 6 months so the version they haveto hand is at least 12 months out of date.

Posted on 10/01/2021 20:07

But the new one has just come out?

Cornersteady replied on 10/01/2021 20:14

Posted on 10/01/2021 18:48 by EmilysDad

I forgot that you're always right .....

you've strayed a long long way from using a site directory and wandered on to fell walking where an OS map & compass would be of more use.

 

Posted on 10/01/2021 20:14

No I'm not I leave that to ex PO's smile

Actually why would an OS map and compass be of more use? Are you an experienced fell walker ED? 

I have both (GPS and maps) both are as much use as the other and I described upthread I use one for navigation largely on the move and the map comes out when having lunch. But either could fail hence the need for both at all times.

Phishing replied on 10/01/2021 20:15

Posted on 10/01/2021 12:38 by DSB

I haven't checked (see edit note below) to see whether that exists  but perhaps we could do with options to select........

  1. To receive the Handbook
  2. Not to receive the Handbook
  3. To receive a pdf version of the Handbook

I tend to look at it when it drops through the door, then it gets put in the bookcase and stays there for 2 years until I replace it with the new one....   I've just had a look and there doesn't appear to be many adverts in it, so it is unlikely to be paid for by ads.  There may be a requirement for a minimum 'run'/number of copies the printers need?

David

Edit:  I've just checked and it is possible to opt out of receiving the Handbook and Map, but there is no option for a pdf..... perhaps this is something to look into - I guess it would be quite large?

David

Posted on 10/01/2021 20:15

David, I see your point but a PDF is not the way forward. 

The club needs to stop reproducing copies of the 1960s brochure in digital format and have serious digital strategy. 

We need a HTML based system with good sharp information. It should be interactive, with intelligent search strings. The club can do its own and affiliate sites and the CLs can do theirs and maintain them. This is cost effective, has much more information and can be kept in real time.

It could even have a reservation system built in showing availability.

If it was written properly it could be something similar to Archies in terms of downloads so you can use remotely.  In terms of content I personally like ASCI Eurocampings, Zoover for the GUI, and pitchup for search strings and preferences.

Once they have the data they can produce a decent booking website as well.

If we had this then we would not need stickies on these boards for things like "club sites with fully serviced pitches", "Monthly open and closed CL lists", "non EHU sites list" and the other similar threads which should and could be in the page content of a site and part of an intelligent search string. 

Phishing replied on 10/01/2021 20:20

Posted on 10/01/2021 20:07 by Cornersteady

But the new one has just come out?

Posted on 10/01/2021 20:20

Yes, so the previous contributor now puts last years in the car as backup. So this is 12 months old. Assuming that it takes at least 6 months from data freeze to you getting the printed matter through your door then the data in his car is 18 months old.

Cornersteady replied on 10/01/2021 20:28

Posted on 10/01/2021 20:15 by Phishing

David, I see your point but a PDF is not the way forward. 

The club needs to stop reproducing copies of the 1960s brochure in digital format and have serious digital strategy. 

We need a HTML based system with good sharp information. It should be interactive, with intelligent search strings. The club can do its own and affiliate sites and the CLs can do theirs and maintain them. This is cost effective, has much more information and can be kept in real time.

It could even have a reservation system built in showing availability.

If it was written properly it could be something similar to Archies in terms of downloads so you can use remotely.  In terms of content I personally like ASCI Eurocampings, Zoover for the GUI, and pitchup for search strings and preferences.

Once they have the data they can produce a decent booking website as well.

Posted on 10/01/2021 20:28

The club needs...

We need a HTML...

Firstly who is we? I assume you might mean you, but why are you thinking WE need anything?

Secondly why does the club need any of that? Is the present system working against the club? Why should the club spend money on your system? What benefits would it bring?  More bookings? People complain enough about not being able to get a pitch. Personally I think people are more concerned with actual club sites and their quality rather than websites.

CLs can do theirs and maintain them.

Do you really know what a CL is and how they operate?  

It could even have a reservation system built in showing availability.

doesn't the club have that already?

But to be fair could you link some websites from the larger campsites that have your system in place so that we can compare? 

EmilysDad replied on 10/01/2021 20:32

Posted on 10/01/2021 20:14 by Cornersteady

No I'm not I leave that to ex PO's smile

Actually why would an OS map and compass be of more use? Are you an experienced fell walker ED? 

I have both (GPS and maps) both are as much use as the other and I described upthread I use one for navigation largely on the move and the map comes out when having lunch. But either could fail hence the need for both at all times.

Posted on 10/01/2021 20:32

No I'm not I leave that to ex PO's smile

POMEA if you please innocent

 ... Are you an experienced fell walker ED? 

It's been many many moons since I last had to triangulate a position on the ground but again ... you're digressing & a moderator will moderate

davetommo replied on 10/01/2021 20:38

Posted on 10/01/2021 20:38

Some like paper some like digital, so everyone should be happy as we have both. Problem is people who want others to use the system that they like to use. Why?

moulesy replied on 10/01/2021 21:01

Posted on 10/01/2021 21:01

"... you're digressing & a moderator will moderate..."

I think they might be a bit too busy with all the shopping chat on the Covid thread to worry about this! laughing

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