Interesting Petition Part 2

MichaelT replied on 14/08/2018 09:59

Posted on 14/08/2018 09:59

Due to the premature closure of the original thread I am opening a new one.  I received the following email form 38 degrees/Mark Bevan today and I think the response form C&MC is broadly in line with our comment on here so perhaps someone from HQ does read these threads after all smile  Mark has even added the link to the closed thread so perhaps he also did read it but declined to comment, pity it was closed also!! 

 
Dear supporters,

Monday 13 August update, the petition hit 2.5k signatures, thank you. I received an email from the C&MC last Thursday, who are aware of the petition. The email from the clubs  Public Affairs & Corporate Communications Manager contained an interesting paragraph that I would like to share with you:

"There is arguably scope and demand for another level of stopover, along the lines of a French Aire. However, the establishment of these would have a cost, and there would be planning approval challenges and UK safety requirements (minimum fire safety separation distances for instance) to overcome. It’s worth debating whether the provision of such facilities should be the responsibility of an organisation like the Club, or whether local authorities should provide them (as is the case in some other countries – France and Australia, for instance). There are already some examples of this in the UK, although some of them operate without compliance with the safety separation distances that those same local authorities would insist on if site operators like the Club were to set them up."

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p.s. You might also like to know, that a link to the petition has been posted and a discussion is taking place about it on the C&MC online forum. Not everyone agrees with the petition, and you may find it interesting to read some different views, or even contribute to the discussion. Here is the link https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/club-together/discussions/sites-touring/uk-sites-touring/interesting-petition/?p=1


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Morris Traveller replied on 17/08/2018 19:14

Posted on 17/08/2018 18:58 by Tinwheeler

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Posted on 17/08/2018 19:14

In order to answer that fully  I would need to write extensively about travelling  in a motorhome "over there" - and that is not welcome in the UK section I understand.

 

 

 

Tinwheeler replied on 17/08/2018 19:20

Posted on 17/08/2018 19:14 by Morris Traveller

In order to answer that fully  I would need to write extensively about travelling  in a motorhome "over there" - and that is not welcome in the UK section I understand.

 

 

 

Posted on 17/08/2018 19:20

No, it’s not about travelling over there. You said "But only if motorhomers "camp" as caravanners do???" in relation to club sites. I’m struggling to discover what is different about the way we camp, not travel, here on club sites. 

I guess I’ll have to carry on struggling…☹️

Morris Traveller replied on 17/08/2018 19:39

Posted on 17/08/2018 19:20 by Tinwheeler

No, it’s not about travelling over there. You said "But only if motorhomers "camp" as caravanners do???" in relation to club sites. I’m struggling to discover what is different about the way we camp, not travel, here on club sites. 

I guess I’ll have to carry on struggling…☹️

Posted on 17/08/2018 19:39

Just to throw you one idea - in the main, on Club sites, we have to pay for EHU when we don't need it. Can we leave it there?

replied on 17/08/2018 19:42

Posted on 17/08/2018 19:42

We have to pay also and did when I did not need to use it and indeed could not.  

JVB66 replied on 17/08/2018 19:45

Posted on 17/08/2018 19:39 by Morris Traveller

Just to throw you one idea - in the main, on Club sites, we have to pay for EHU when we don't need it. Can we leave it there?

Posted on 17/08/2018 19:45

That is no different to numerous caravans that now have solar panels as standard these days but then also most modern LVs also have electric hobs and microwaveswink

Also when EHU was an extra charge it was (according to our retired warden friends) a constant job "checking" why the orange cable was connected?undecided

Morris Traveller replied on 17/08/2018 19:58

Posted on 17/08/2018 19:47 by Tinwheeler
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Posted on 17/08/2018 19:58

Which is why we use our caravan when we camp over here - as we really don't wish to be without EHU when in that (it's rather old and lacking solar panels and the like), and our motorhome over there - as we can be self sufficient. I am not quite sure why you are arguing with me. I have tried to answer your questions politely and my keyboard has not run away with me, whatever that means.

I was writing about our own experiences and I am surprised that has caused such a reaction.

Tinwheeler replied on 17/08/2018 20:13

Posted on 17/08/2018 19:58 by Morris Traveller

Which is why we use our caravan when we camp over here - as we really don't wish to be without EHU when in that (it's rather old and lacking solar panels and the like), and our motorhome over there - as we can be self sufficient. I am not quite sure why you are arguing with me. I have tried to answer your questions politely and my keyboard has not run away with me, whatever that means.

I was writing about our own experiences and I am surprised that has caused such a reaction.

Posted on 17/08/2018 20:13

I’m not arguing with you, Morris. I’m merely trying to understand your earlier comments. In particular "But only if motorhomers "camp" as caravanners do???" which, for the reasons I’ve already stated, puzzle me as I can see no real difference on club sites which was what you were talking about.

However, you want to leave it so that’s fine.

 

Morris Traveller replied on 17/08/2018 20:21

Posted on 17/08/2018 20:13 by Tinwheeler

I’m not arguing with you, Morris. I’m merely trying to understand your earlier comments. In particular "But only if motorhomers "camp" as caravanners do???" which, for the reasons I’ve already stated, puzzle me as I can see no real difference on club sites which was what you were talking about.

However, you want to leave it so that’s fine.

 

Posted on 17/08/2018 20:21

Yes, better left as this (side line) discussion is detracting from the main point of the thread, and what we are now getting distracted by was a mere appendage to the main point I made in a post up-thread. (Maybe this topic needs a new thread?)

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