Climate Change-The Truth

mickysf replied on 18/04/2019 07:21

Posted on 18/04/2019 07:21

This TV program views tonight and is presented by David Attenborough. A very serious subject by all accounts and possibly one we should all watch. I guess much of that discussed will impact seriously on the future of the pastime we currently and collectively enjoy. 

brue replied on 21/04/2019 10:36

Posted on 21/04/2019 10:36

I can remember, nearly thirty years ago now, standing up at a meeting and reading out "the facts about diesel" ie that we should all use it. So although things are changing we are dependent on research getting it right and that is the constant theme to all this.

I just looked up, as a reminder, what epoch we are in, the Holocene, it's worth reading about just from a point of view of climate change, loss of species, development of skills etc. We're a strange lot, we could have stopped with flint tools but we didn't. wink

I'll now confess I didn't watch David A and his programme as much of this information is out there and as said by others you can try to do your bit and governments will have to change their policies too.

One small thing locally, all our non recyclable household waste will soon be going to an energy plant producing electricity. If that is repeated everywhere that's some sort of lurch towards renewables. 

Has anyone managed to stop using plastic bags? I haven't. frown

mickysf replied on 21/04/2019 11:07

Posted on 21/04/2019 11:07

Brue, can I suggest you watch it, it's on inplayer, clearly some will not bother either because they do or don't want to agree and some will want to deliberately avoid it and not consider the facts. However in the eyes of many it was based on current knowledge and the very latest data. I learnt a lot from it and it modified my stance. A few mind want nothing to do with it and won't watch for that very reason but it's worth watching nevetheless if only to discard the content or ignore what they see in my opinion. At least it will contribute to ones understanding of both sides of the argument.

Takethedogalong replied on 21/04/2019 11:24

Posted on 21/04/2019 11:24

No brue, we haven’t either, but those we have get used until they drop to pieces, and tend to be the more robust bag for life types. I actually got chatting to a chap in our Tesco yesterday, usual queue at the one working scale in the fruit/veg aisle. He was weighing bananas in a small plastic bag, so I asked him (friendly) why? Turns out it was just habit, something to stick his label on. So I demonstrated that labels stuck just as well to a banana skin! Really winds me up seeing things like bananas in plastic bags......

On a sadder note, we took dog for a walk in one of our local parks yesterday evening. Nice warm evening, dozens of hot hatches parked up in little car park. Local youth enjoying a night out, litter, broken bottles, McDonalds wrappers strewn everywhere, disposable barbecues still glowing on grass, beer cans being hurled around. Didn’t dare say a word, but our body language probably spoke for itself. It’s a regular thing as well, not just a one off. More worrying to me was they were breeding age. These weren’t poor kids either, not looking at some of cars and clothes they were wearing. For every Greta there are a few thousand who desperately need a lifestyle mindset change. If they were dogs, they would be considered poor breeding stock and neutered. Not PC I know, but so angers me.😡

rutlandwarrior replied on 21/04/2019 12:26

Posted on 21/04/2019 12:26

Why is everyone on here trying to force their view on everyone else, if you believe that climate change is man made then alter your way of life to improve things if you don't then carry on as normal simple.  It's like brexit just because you hold a strong view one way or another does not mean the opposing view is wrong and they should all go to hell in a handcart and it's doom and gloom. 

DavidKlyne replied on 21/04/2019 12:30

Posted on 21/04/2019 12:30

Has anyone managed to stop using plastic bags? I haven't.

Not entirely  although I reckon we have been pretty good at avoiding them for the last ten years. When Waitrose started their self scanning Check Check scheme, probably over ten years ago now. Those that signed up to self scan were given a set of hessian type bags, some of which we are still using today. So I suppose we have at least not used 3000 plastic bags for our shopping over that time and probably more. When we shop elsewhere for the likes of food we always take a bag with us. Where I am not so good and tend to pay 5p for a bag is when I buy clothes, which is not that often anyway. I noticed on Thursday that Waitrose now no longer offer plastic bags at the till points but direct you to their range of hessian bags.

David

Takethedogalong replied on 21/04/2019 13:21

Posted on 21/04/2019 12:26 by rutlandwarrior

Why is everyone on here trying to force their view on everyone else, if you believe that climate change is man made then alter your way of life to improve things if you don't then carry on as normal simple.  It's like brexit just because you hold a strong view one way or another does not mean the opposing view is wrong and they should all go to hell in a handcart and it's doom and gloom. 

Posted on 21/04/2019 13:21

I don’t think anyone is trying to force their views on anyone else. Some contributors are merely chatting about the things they have done that may lessen the impact of humanity on this planet.

There are two main reasons for climate change, one wholly cyclical, the other, and of far greater concern, is the impact that Man is having in one way or another on our World in general. Little efforts and changes can add up to larger changes, and that’s not to be ignored. 😀

Tinwheeler replied on 21/04/2019 13:21

Posted on 21/04/2019 12:26 by rutlandwarrior

Why is everyone on here trying to force their view on everyone else, if you believe that climate change is man made then alter your way of life to improve things if you don't then carry on as normal simple.  It's like brexit just because you hold a strong view one way or another does not mean the opposing view is wrong and they should all go to hell in a handcart and it's doom and gloom. 

Posted on 21/04/2019 13:21

I haven’t seen anyone forcing their view on others, CG. It’s a discussion and people are stating their opinions. We are free to agree of disagree with them - or to ignore the thread entirely.

 

Edit. Whoops, crossed with you, TDA.

mickysf replied on 21/04/2019 13:29

Posted on 21/04/2019 13:29

I don't think anyone is forcing people to change their mind but some are suggesting that an open mind and an openness to modify old beliefs is healthy. Discussion is good!

As an aside taken from a caravan magazine.

'This summer, record numbers of Electric Vehicle (EV) and Plug-in Hybrid (PHEVs) drivers will be out and about on the nation’s roads.
Demand for EVs is at an all-time high in the UK, with year-on-year sales of EVs/PHEVs having increased by more than 27%, building further on an already bumper year previously.
With leading car manufacturers around the world having introducing new EV and PHEV models, the current monumental increase in EV sales is set to continue at an increasingly rapid rate.
The Government is investing heavily into the industry too – with nearly one billion pounds being directed into promoting the growth and support of EV uptake in this country.
Martin Georgeson, Sales Director of Rolec Services, the award-winning company widely recognised as one of Europe’s leading designers, manufacturers and suppliers of EV charging points and accessories, commented: “As a company, we have been actively involved in the EV industry for over 8 years and are well placed to meet the increasing demand.
“Increasing numbers of caravan parks across the UK are installing Rolec EV charging points as an added feature for their visitors and staff to use to keep pace with the trends of modern day motoring.  We are aware of a number of disgruntled visitors to other leisure parks around the country who have been airing their disappointment at the lack of EV charging points on EV internet forums, highlighting the fact that demand is out there.”

This is a good example how a modification of belief has and is acting as a change agent.

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