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moulesy replied on 14/01/2021 10:47
Posted on 14/01/2021 10:34 by LLMContent has been removed.
Posted on 14/01/2021 10:47
Would a "reasoned arguement" be that quicker and more decisive action in virtually every respect of the handling of this situation would have demonstrably led to fewer infections, hospital admissions and deaths? Even today we are hearing that the new measures regarding arrivals from overseas, so proudly announced just this week, have had to be delayed. 
But let me turn the question round, LLM - are you saying that you are perfectly happy with the way ministers from the PM down have handled it? No criticism at all? 
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Cornersteady replied on 14/01/2021 10:48
JVB66 replied on 14/01/2021 10:54
Posted on 14/01/2021 10:45 by MikeyANot all the time. They have had awful weather in Sydney over the last few weeks.
I'm sure many of also adopted a similar lifestyle last March and April when we had unseasonably good weather during the first lockdown. Didn't help the deaths in the first period though did it?
Posted on 14/01/2021 10:54
But then the latest Mutations ,from Kent ,South Africa and now Brazil as found in Australia have yet to take of in other areas of the world
And using March 2020 as a model is not really relavent as all nations were more so, and still are on a very steep learning curve and the more crowded smaller countries even harder to find a way through this
replied on 14/01/2021 11:03
Posted on 14/01/2021 10:29 by moulesyJust read Mickey's post again. He was pointing out that roughly the same number of folk live in the 4 major cities in both countries. The "sparcer poulation "(sic) is largely irrelevant in that respect.
MikeyA replied on 14/01/2021 11:04
Posted on 14/01/2021 10:54 by JVB66But then the latest Mutations ,from Kent ,South Africa and now Brazil as found in Australia have yet to take of in other areas of the world
And using March 2020 as a model is not really relavent as all nations were more so, and still are on a very steep learning curve and the more crowded smaller countries even harder to find a way through this
Posted on 14/01/2021 11:04
JVB,- Do you agree that quick decisive actions could have saved many thousands of lives.
Can you explain to me why, when we are in our current "Lockdown" and asking the nation to "Stay at home, Protect the NHS, Save Lives" are we still allowing Garden centres, Places of Worship and even NT gardens ( not many people walk to one) to remain open?
Edit. JVB, --- if Boris had been in charge of the New Zealand government, do you really think his bumbling and indecision would have also resulted in them limiting their number of deaths to 25?
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replied on 14/01/2021 11:08
Posted on 14/01/2021 10:40 by brueI have to disagree with you again David, I'm probably one of the majority who takes no comfort at all from the spread of this disease in any country. Neither will I run our country down in it's efforts to suppress and control the disease, mistakes have been made. Politicians receive no training for their job, they are the same as us, they get voted in and out and they're not as Moulesy says "our masters" they could more likely be called our servants and in the face of a crisis like this one they will be called to task when the crisis is over.
replied on 14/01/2021 11:13
Posted on 14/01/2021 10:46 by Cornersteadymy post was removed but I didn't mention anything about UK doing better at all? It was about a poster saying what would you do?
Posted on 14/01/2021 11:13
No, not in the removed post but there has been reference in many posts about a statement saying that UK gov had claimed to have done well. I I hoped you or anybody could say in relation to what aspect.
In elation to stopping the spread I don't think that UK has done well at all.
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Cornersteady replied on 14/01/2021 11:19
Posted on 14/01/2021 11:13 byNo, not in the removed post but there has been reference in many posts about a statement saying that UK gov had claimed to have done well. I I hoped you or anybody could say in relation to what aspect.
In elation to stopping the spread I don't think that UK has done well at all.
Cornersteady replied on 14/01/2021 11:21
Posted on 14/01/2021 11:08 byI wont be holding my breath waiting for these people to be called to account when this is over . It has taken incompetence of monumental proportions to suffer as badly in a country without land borders and when it was finally beginning to be taken seriously the PM didn't bother to turn up at the first 5 COBRA meetings . I am afraid no amount of excellent work by the NHS and army now will "rub off " onto these people in my eyes.
moulesy replied on 14/01/2021 11:23
Posted on 14/01/2021 11:13 byNo, not in the removed post but there has been reference in many posts about a statement saying that UK gov had claimed to have done well. I I hoped you or anybody could say in relation to what aspect.
In elation to stopping the spread I don't think that UK has done well at all.
Posted on 14/01/2021 11:23
Not quite correct if you're referring to my post. I didn't say the the "UK gov had claimed to have done well" (though I do believe they "think" they have ). I said "we have been told" meaning by a number of posters on here who appear to me to be slavishly endorsing the government's handling of the situation. (And they are, of course, perfectly entitled to that view, though, obviously it's not one that I share.)
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