Fuel discount card

RowenaBCAMC replied on 06/02/2020 16:43

Posted on 06/02/2020 16:43

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to let you know that some of you will be receiving an email from Pump King’s customer service to advise that Pump King has been purchased by Horizon Fuel Limited and will now operate under Fuelpecker.

Fuelpecker has listened to customer feedback and developed set discounts off the pump price which means guaranteed savings and therefore no more weekly fuel price text messages or variable savings. Fuelpecker has also expanded the network to include Shell petrol stations. In addition, the Fuelpecker set discounts are now available in Europe so you can save whilst travelling.

Your Pump-King account will be cancelled and your information will be securely Deleted User from Pump-King on the 17th February 2020. Therefore your Pump-King card will not work after the 17th February 2020.

To continue benefiting from discounted fuel, you will need to sign up for your new Fuelpecker discount card here: Fuelpecker

We hope you take advantage of the new benefits with Fuelpecker.  For more information and FAQs please visit the Fuelpecker website. smile

 

Rufs replied on 07/02/2020 08:40

Posted on 07/02/2020 08:18 by BlueVanMan

"We hope you take advantage of the new benefits with Fuelpecker"

I am slightly surprised that CAMC feel able to endorse Fuelpecker or rather Horizon Fuels, a company which has only been in existence for eight months and which has a share capital of £100.  It has (understandably) not yet filed any accounts and has only one Director. they may be backed by (for example) Paypal for all we know but that is not discernible and presumably the Club don't know either. 

Furthermore if Horizon have "purchased" Pump King then that would normally mean that customer lists and data would be transferred to Horizon otherwise there would be little point in paying for the company, might as well just start up in competition. So athough of course  I don't know what has happened here and whilst it may be the case that   PK has "deleted" its user data it may also have transferred that data or at least cardholder details to Horizon. Anyway data would normally be retained by PK for a period insofar as necessary for audit or compliance purposes. 

Whilst I appreciate that exact commercial relationships with companies may be at least in part confidential I have a concern that the reputation of the club could be tarnished by recommendations if these were not preceded by careful scrutiny of the supplier.

Or to put that more simply I hope the Club have thoroughly investigated Horizon before (by implication) recommending them. 

Posted on 07/02/2020 08:40

although i share your concerns, i believe we went throught all these scenarios when Pumpking was rolled out to members.

for me this new discount is rubbish if compared to todays prices

esso fuel card £1.23 diesel local Shell £1.34 diesel.

i guess we all take chances when we disclose our card details to anybody, but for all the shouting last time around i never heard of anybody getting scammed undecided

dont do much UK mileage, but any saving is a saving, and card could be useful over there.

Surfer replied on 07/02/2020 09:20

Posted on 07/02/2020 08:18 by BlueVanMan

"We hope you take advantage of the new benefits with Fuelpecker"

I am slightly surprised that CAMC feel able to endorse Fuelpecker or rather Horizon Fuels, a company which has only been in existence for eight months and which has a share capital of £100.  It has (understandably) not yet filed any accounts and has only one Director. they may be backed by (for example) Paypal for all we know but that is not discernible and presumably the Club don't know either. 

On Fuelpeckers website there is a statement. :-

"Fuelpecker is proud to have top global entrepreneurs and business people as investors and board members" (note plural )

Well maybe they do but there is no UK company called "Fuelpecker" and there is only one director of Horizon, Tom Leyland who may or may not be a global entrepreneur but he has no other directorships.   With a  share capital of £100 there is little permanent capital invested in the company. 

Furthermore if Horizon have "purchased" Pump King then that would normally mean that customer lists and data would be transferred to Horizon otherwise there would be little point in paying for the company, might as well just start up in competition. So athough of course  I don't know what has happened here and whilst it may be the case that   PK has "deleted" its user data it may also have transferred that data or at least cardholder details to Horizon. Anyway data would normally be retained by PK for a period insofar as necessary for audit or compliance purposes. 

Whilst I appreciate that exact commercial relationships with companies may be at least in part confidential I have a concern that the reputation of the club could be tarnished by recommendations if these were not preceded by careful scrutiny of the supplier.

Or to put that more simply I hope the Club have thoroughly investigated Horizon before (by implication) recommending them. 

 

 

Posted on 07/02/2020 09:20

Went through exactly the same with Pumpkin which only came into existence a couple of months prior to being released to CAMC.  I suspect that the director is probably the same person but different company name.  Either way you are correct that the CMC should investigate the company more thoroughly.  After signing up with Pump King my junk email folder became full rapidly!

Unclemort54 replied on 07/02/2020 09:24

Posted on 07/02/2020 09:24

I agree with GMC, the new discounts are not as good. I use premium diesel and always make a considerable saving. I’ve just payed £1.311/litre against a pump price of £1.49/litre. Biggest losses with the new card will be on motorways. £1.69 compared to £1.37 at Scotch Corner in the not so distant past. I think the savings, even with the current card, have never been as good on standard fuel compared to premium.

Surfer replied on 07/02/2020 09:35

Posted on 07/02/2020 09:35

I would recommend that you read their Privacy Policy before signing up.  BTW this is the first time that I have come across a site asking for a password that does not include numbers or characters.

Watendlath replied on 07/02/2020 10:27

Posted on 07/02/2020 09:35 by Surfer

I would recommend that you read their Privacy Policy before signing up.  BTW this is the first time that I have come across a site asking for a password that does not include numbers or characters.

Posted on 07/02/2020 10:27

Like some others I had initial difficulty with my password, which has always contained upper and lower case letters, numbers and special characters, After re-reading the rules I just added enough extra letters to get to eight letters plus the other characters- accepted straight away.

Odd that FP don't appear to understand that numbers etc are just computer code inputs the same as letters (as well as more secure), so why exclude them from the rules?

Also I agree with others that the deal is worse than currently as my local Esso is £1.331 this week and PK is £1.231 - that's 10p per litre discount now compared to the "improved" 4p in the future. Still, its an option to have if I can make sensible use of it.

Rufs replied on 07/02/2020 10:38

Posted on 07/02/2020 09:20 by Surfer

Went through exactly the same with Pumpkin which only came into existence a couple of months prior to being released to CAMC.  I suspect that the director is probably the same person but different company name.  Either way you are correct that the CMC should investigate the company more thoroughly.  After signing up with Pump King my junk email folder became full rapidly!

Posted on 07/02/2020 10:38

I seem to recall you were the chief trail blazer for pointing out all that was wrong with Pump King, so much bluff and bluster amounting to nothing except some savings on fuel in the end. I can honestly say i never received 1 piece of junk email when i signed up for Pump King. 

Yes it is not good that it is now all change and we have to sign up for a new deal, but my guess is you will have had a Pump King card tucked away in your wallet despite all your bluff and blusterwink

Shires999 replied on 07/02/2020 12:07

Posted on 07/02/2020 12:07

 Anyone noticed that the T&C's on the Pump King website have already changed to Horizon Fuels?

They also look identical to Pump Kings previous ones as are teh FAQ's on FP's website

cyberyacht replied on 07/02/2020 16:59

Posted on 07/02/2020 16:59

I generally buy my fuel in a supermarket either in the UK or abroad except for the gas guzzler's nirvana, Luxembourg. I've already got enough plastic in my wallet to destroy a planet or two.

Surfer replied on 08/02/2020 10:49

Posted on 08/02/2020 10:49

BTW isn't the Fuelpecker website "illegal" as it does not have any contact information etc.  The only way to contact is via email?  There is not even an address on the website? 

I registered yesterday and today decided to have another read of the T&Cs on the Fuelpecker site and they are nowhere to be found.  Not even hint?  Surely that is not correct and could be illegal according to current legislation?

Seems the club has chosen another fly by night outfit to give us discounts.  BTW no mention of how they will process VAT payments?

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