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Nice one peedee. 

my 120w roof mounted SP also is well able to keep everything charged when parked up at home...

one other point re: safefill/gaslow.....dont forget that a set of adaptors will allow LPG refilling all over Europe, at an equally low price....

One point about the European adaptors for safefil.  I think so please check.  But safefil need a special apdaptor because it needs to screw into the LH thread of bottle.  Safefil sell these but they are more expensive than the standard ones, which is why I said check just in case I am talking cobblers. 

Merve

My comments were aimed at refillable in the whole not just safefill, it will not be of any use until there are plenty of sites to fill up, having a 50 mile round trip is not sustainable and garages are loathe to stock it due to poor demand!!

Also you have to use enough gas to make it worthwhile my BBQ at home the cylinder is about 6 years old and still 3/4 full, when we caravanned a cylinder lasted over a season so hardly an issue. 

We had Gaslow fitted in the MH as we felt we would stay in Aires etc. more so it would be handy especially abroad plus it was included in the deal .

I do not believe the market is as big as you think as the set up costs are prohibitive, if the cylinder to buy was in the region of say £50 then it would become viable for most people but only if there was somewhere to fill it so for that to happen I feel the dealers need to sell bulk as well as bottled gas, I am sure Calor and Flo gas could supply the tanks etc. but not sure the dealers would want to do that with  all the H&S hassle that would come with it as well as having a pump fitted and attending it but lets see.

To add to the above, some garages and I think BP are stopping selling gas which is a little worrying because it sounds as though it could become more scarce. Anyone contemplating buying a refillable system it may be wise to only buy one refillable with a standard bottle as spare.

peedee.

Peedee, i use the system as you describe.....

i have one Gaslow 11kg refillable....

my second bottle hose has a std 'butane' fitting, just right for a French bottle, i also carry a Spanish 'jumbo' adaptor so that i can use a Spanish bottle should LPG be difficult to find.

however, ,y own experiences are that LPG is far easier to find in France/Spain than at home, with many large supermarkets selling it in France, along with umpteen Repsol/Cepsa stations in Spain.

i hope i have most bases covered....

That was the system I had in my last motorhome but with a calorlite as standby. I currently have a double 11Kgm Gaslow sytem. Iif gas starts to get scarce in the UK then I will just replace one of the re-fillable with a standard bottle.  Currently my local garage still sells it. Where did you get the Spanish jumbo adaptor and is it for use with the butane tail?

peedee

I think that the best hope for the continued availability of lpg in garages is if diesel goes out of fashion. 

Has anyone ever filled their safefill bottle abroad? - The last time I checked on the Safefill website they had very few filling facilities in mainland Europe.

I'm sure they have! The refill sites I believe are more numerous abroad as they are much more educated about refillables. At the moment, I don't go abroad but I would have no worries about taking my SF cylinders together with adapters. I always check if there is a refill facility near to or en route to my destination. If not ( which as yet hasn't happened) I make sure I have enough gas to get me through easily. 

MT, thanks for your comments but I maintain that the LPG market, although shrinking due to the failure of LPG powered cars, is still vibrant. The refillable cylinders have opened up a new revenue stream for the independents. Safefill are very busy at the moment fulfilling orders for cylinders. I agree that if you don't use much gas then obviously the purchase of one doesn't make as much sense or not as much sense as someone who does use plenty but the only difference is that you'll get your money back over a greater timescale- but you'll still get it back - which is more than you can say about the 'contract ' money you have to pay Calor.