Club AGM 2020

I would imagine that wardens have plenty of opportunity to feed back their views via their Regional Managers who then have an onward route to the person in charge of sites? Personally I would say that I would want membership views to be taken into account over and above paid employees? 

CL's are a different matter. Unless the Club become more prescriptive in how CL's are allowed to conduct themselves how would this be achieved. Perhaps we need more people like Ted who runs a successful CL and has made efforts to organise fellow CL owners? But for every CL owner who is happy using social media there are probable ten that aren't. The more we try to commercialise CL's the further we move away from the idea.

David

The answer to the dog question has reinforced the Club's position as the provisional wing of the Kennel Club. Dogs get facilities provided for free whilst motorhomers who pay for their use of the site continue to wait for proper waste disposal facilities. Whilst I think it is fair for the first dog or even possibly the second as well to be free, I would like to see charging for more than that. A stricter enforcement of the two metre lead wouldn't go amiss. How often do we see an owner with a dog trailing often as much as four or five times that length behind. There's a trip hazard if nothing else. Two metres! The same distance that you should be from me.

NB Moderators - this relates to AGM questions, not the "dog thread"

You missed your chance in putting your points forward to the AGM as AD did.  Next year, eh? 👍🏻

The club pointed out the £10 per day dog charge levied on guests using S pods etc. This is because extra cleaning work is involved etc.

Dogs on sites incur lower working costs pro rata.

Whatever charges are levied upon any site users there will always be some who cost the club more in working terms eg people who make a mess in facility blocks, people who damage pitches with groundsheets. 

Each improvement is a separate issue, I don't think dogs are slowing up motorhome point upgrading. 

If I was to bring up a comment about dogs at the AGM, it would be around ensuring that the Club operated a strictly enforced code that didn’t tolerate poor dog ownership on its Club Sites. It’s no good having a list of do’s and don’ts if it isn’t policed. That’s got nothing to do with charging for them, it’s about being responsible for them. You don’t tend to get many issues on CLs with dogs, because the CL owners sort things out. Same on small private Sites as well. It’s a Site management issue, not a charging issue.

Next ill informed suggestion will be measure the ruddy dogs and charge by the inch🤨

Whilst I agree that the problems are primarily a site management one, I still stand by my contention that provision of dog walks is not zero cost and, on the face of it, appear to have a greater priority than upgrading motorhome waste points.

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The ongoing completion of motorhome waste points was detailed clearly in the AGM including site design and leasehold situations.

Dogs are not to blame for delays to infrastructure improvements.

We're talking about caravan sites where people complain about all sorts of things but financially budgets are set for projects and projects hit glitches.

I look forward to more questions from more people next time, if this on line opportunity continues to exist. Covid appears to have opened up access. 

That's my point, David. Although your recent experience of club sites is not extensive, you perceived an issue and brought your view to the attention of the AGM by putting your question. CY could have done the same but missed his opportunity to make his views known.

Have dog walks been upgraded ahead of MHSPs, CY? I must have missed that. 

Some of the upgraded MHSPs are a joy to use whereas dog walks are generally still the same scrubby old bit of waste ground down the end.